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  1. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    I know male calves in a dairy herd are slaughtered young. Calves in a beef herd live longer to get more meat from them. It's around two years before they go.
  2. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    How do they earn a living in the meantime?
  3. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    Not in a beef herd.
  4. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    My comments on the plants was a joke as was the other poster, who saw it for what is was, and joked about watching flowers die in a vase. Sense of humour failure. I eat meat, I enjoy meat and don't feel any shame in eating meat, dairy or fish.
  5. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    No leather for shoes and plastics are bad for the environment so we must learn to walk barefooted.
  6. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    That's just a romantic idea. The animals would be destroyed as farmers couldn't afford to keep them as pets. There wouldn't be herds of wild cattle, except for rarer breeds. There might be herds of sheep seeing as it doesn't hurt them to shear their wool.
  7. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    That's not true. One cow or one nanny goat per family provides for the calf/kid and a family. A lactating animal will produce more milk when more is drawn. You don't think a six month old child takes the same amount of milk as a newborn do you? I have breastfed, so I know.
  8. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    The original comment was that our 'ancestors' ie apes were vegetarian. Gorillas are apes and not vegetarian.
  9. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    I'll quote my own link again where gorillas eat monkeys as their dna is found in their faeces.
  10. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100305-first-proof-gorillas-eat-monkeys-mammals-feces-dna/
  11. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    Eggs are natural. A cow will give milk, as will a goat. Obviously with intense production the bull calves are sent for animal food or veal, but people owning one cow or nanny goat are not causing the animal any suffering by drinking their milk or making cheese and butter. Vegans will tell you...
  12. Thunder Bolt

    [Politics] Vegan hardline communists

    Plants are living organisms, so you kill them by eating them.
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