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I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm saying that Cardiff's best hope of staying by far is to better our result on Saturday. If they merely match us, then they are relying on a 3 point swing the following game, and then hoping they can pinch a point at Man Utd while we don't do the same at home...

They'd still be outsiders even then. They are away to Man Utd last day.

That's probably about right. Realistically, Cardiff have to better our result on Saturday to give themselves any sort of chance. Luckily for us, they're playing Fulham at just the wrong time.

Fair comment. On reflection we weren't terrible yesterday, but IMO we still didn't deserve any more than a point.

I don't see the value in Cardiff there. They are well capable of finishing above all the other candidates except Burnley IMO. 9/1 looks like an absolute steal based on this evening's perfornance. I might put £20 on and hopefully I won't collect.

The thing is, we probably only need one of those teams to fail to hit 36 points and we'd be alright by default. If all of them make 36 points, it will still take a terrible run for us to get sucked in. Ultimately, the bookmakers are offering 16/1 which puts our chances of relegation at around...

It'll be plenty to avoid being in the bottom 2 - not so sure about that 3rd from bottom spot though! Newcastle went down with 37 points only 3 years ago and my gut feeling is that all but Huddersfield and Fulham are capable of ending up with a points total of 36+.