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.. as for Channel 4 concentrating on making better programmes they don't actually make any. They are all made by independent producers. All Avalon have done is find a customer willing to pay more for THEIR programme. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk

Well the production company have done most the work, it's made by Avalon. That's the way many programmes are made these days, even the BBC are making them for other channels. Graham Norton on the BBC is made by ITV. As for the UKTV channels being "smaller" they are owned by the BBC. Sent from...