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I have been having a discussion on this with my youngest son who says we should try to sign Gareth Barry and I keep asking what does he give us that Steve Sidwell doesnt and is 2 years older.

I would say to Ince "Thank you very much and in order to get regular football we are prepared to accept a fee of £25k to let you get fixed up with another club " Then add a 30% sell on clause.just in case he should improve.

The worry is that both Rohan Ince and Elvis Manu have a year left on their contracts so could we just put them on the transfer list ona free and hope that somebody wants to sign them.