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    General Election 2017

    it may have been my post you are referring to, if so then I will try and show you my thinking.. Despite what the Labour Party and their friends would now have us believe, at the time Corbyn was a minor MP with no clout at all. He was a bit of a nuisance to the party. He didn't just meet the...
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    I have to be a bit concerned that Labour are basically offering bribes for people to vote for them. Vote for us and we will scrap next years tuition fees, vote for us and get 4 extra days bank holiday (well the bankers will-= most others will have to work in shops, bars, restaurants, cinemas...
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    That's not being nasty- basically calling someone a pig is. I happen to think that brexit is a disaster, I didn't call anyone who voted for it a pig, or anything else. Big difference between sarcasm and insults
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    well I'm going to assume you are being humorous by saying anyone who votes blue can only grunt-as this is a friendly board and you obviously aren't trying to be nasty to anyone, we are after all entitled to our own opinions without being insulted just because they differ from yours. And thank...
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    I didn't say that was the reason I would or wouldn't vote for them. I just said that in order for Labour to win that's what they need to do.,. They have produced their manifesto and said we can do this, and here's how we pay for it. BUT if you do cost something, and say we can do all this for...
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    ah I see the difference, yours is a better definition of what I meant, torys, lib dems and the right side of the labour movement (if that's not a contradiction!)
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    isn't that what I said? :-)
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    its not costed, there is no mention of how they are going to pay to renationalise the water industry, royal mail, electric industry etc. Or are they just going to steal it ?
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    yes and promptly won power for a decade or more, by becoming a slightly leftish version of the Tory party. Now that the Labour movement has lurched back so fat to the left people are deserting it in droves. What a lot of people on the left do not seem to realise, is that this country is...
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    all Labour have to do to win this election is to ditch Corbyn, Abbott, and half the front bench team, come up with some realistic policies that are at least costed realistically (leaving out the cost of renationalising half our national industries makes a mockery of their so called funded...
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    interesting couple of stats here, there is a lot about the super rich not paying enough tax, but is that actually true? This is from last year. So the top 1% pay 27% of ALL income tax collected. and HALF of the adult population pay no income tax. What effect then on the total collected would a...
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    of course not, however its a perfectly good example of what poverty means now and what it meant 30 years ago, then it would be unthinkable for the percentage of kids that do have this stuff to have had the equivalent of that kind of money spent on them. There are some people in horrible...
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    Its not a case of I'm all right jack, I am early 50s, and am in a much better position than my parents, through bloody hard work. I am all for a funded NHS, education etc and happy to pay for it. What I'm failing to get across is that how many of us don't own smart phones, have multiple TVs...
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    The "problem" here is actually quite simple- even though a lot of people are in denial. The "problem" the left in general have is that fewer people want their policies, leadership(that's a laugh) and general chumminess with the Unions. The "natural" party of Government in the UK is, and has been...
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    frightening that people still think Brexit can be reversed, it cant, we are stuck with it. The electorate voted for it. Now its time to decide who will make the best job of it, look what "protest" votes did for Brexit, "oh i didnt think they would win so I voted for it ", look at that mess. Dont...
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