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No we're not just talking about the current leader of the Russia, we're talking about world politics. You'll look at the actions of previous Western leaders, but not previous Russian leaders. My point is that you're not capable of being objective. If you don't like it, that's fine.

I didn't say it was Putin. You're happy to look at the Bush and Blair, why won't you look at Russia's previous leaders? And the leaders of the USSR were the leaders of Russia. It's not getting sidetracked, it's part of what caused problems in the middle east.

So their war with Afghanistan did nothing?

It's the same God.

Well, innocent of causing trouble in the middle east for example.

Agreed, but will you also criticise Russia's foreign policy, or are they innocent in your eyes?