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That should get better now though thanks to Brexit. We won't be bound by EU law and so we can ban all the foreigners! :)

Indeed, I said the same thing. And we're the same age, we both know that in the last fifty years after we've been knocked out of a tournament (or failed to qualify even) the cry is "We've got the players, it's just that the manager is rubbish." I long ago stopped believing that, (probably in...

Yeah, it made a change. We can usually avoid defeat against the smaller teams and only keel over when we come up against one of the top tier nations. At least this was a new humiliation.

At least your kids will have decent levels of expectation and accept that for a 2nd tier nation like England reaching the quarter finals of a major competition represents a good tournament. A lot of older people have had to have this delusion painfully knocked out of them, think of all the...

Yeah, ok, now THAT was shit! That was a typical England tournament performance; I wrap my frustration and disappointment around me like an old, familiar blanket.

Agreed. Also I guess anyone saying England have been 'shit' has only recently gotten into football, I dunno, perhaps since the Amex opened. By tournament standards England have been unrecognisable from our usual dire selves. Frustrating, yes. Shit, no.