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Duly edited. It's a useful tool, encouraging precision. Which we have to conclude will make you happy.

Ta. Feedback on above post welcome!

Am testing, using your guidelines: :) I've now completely changed my view on this. You're complicating things. I said that I think 84 points would be enough for automatics. Goldstone (and, earlier, you) disagreed. That means that I'm saying that the third place team will get 83 points, or less.

See above [I am incompetent at posting technically: perhaps you can enlighten]

I shall interpret variously, according to my mood :angel::tantrum::mad::angry::flounce::drink::annoyed::jester::afro:

Is that an image of a 47 Cheval Blanc? If so, secondary objective already achieved (although that wasn't really in doubt). Whatever, Yule loose.

On this at least Triggaaar is being cleverer than the both of us. He's right, I think, but I can't quite explain how/why. But can we agree that the aim of it is that it's a curiosity and at least one of us gives some money to REMF.

I do. And I will be transferring some more money in there soon, as I've been meaning to do so for months. Apologies Tom Hark, Preston Park

Let's do £50. The wine would be something additional, and would have to be shared. It probably won't happen. But it might be nice.

You're on. I'll increase the amount if you share something from your cellar at some event. (I can reciprocate, but it won't be quite so enticing.)

I said on another thread that the teams I'm worried about are the obvious ones (or at least the ones favoured by the punters at the bookies): Boro, Derby, Hull and Burnley. I'd be surprised if at least three of those don't make the top six. So that does fall in line with your rationale. But the...

If that's the case, it is simply impossible for us to get relegated this season then.

I explained my rationale in the post. What's yours?

My heart doesn't think about such things. My brain tells me that we need 20-25 points to stay up, and that we'll get them, but that's not guaranteed. I've also just posted this on another thread: My current thinking is: 55 more points gets us in the play-offs (i.e. from remaining 37 games = 74...