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Yes it is. Best wine I've ever had - just ethereal. Goldstone FTW.

Yep. The point is mostly to get some cash to REMF, with a secondary objective of getting some kudos over you. :thumbsup: See above post where I "mention" you - in Trigaaaar's scenario, you win.

Ah! Yes, I see. So: yes, in the scenario you give, the team in second who currently have 86 points, would still have been second on only 83 points. In that eventually, Machiavelli would win. Entirely hypothetical though.

I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but in the example you've given, if the third placed team got 84 points, they'd still be two points behind the team who finished second and I'd have won, surely? I feel sure I'm missing something (or being whooshed!), but I can't see what...

Done. I take it you have the REMF bank details already? :wink:

OK - people's definitions of "small" obviously vary - how would £25 for the cash component sit with you? Let me know the value of the non-cash component and if I lose, I'll donate a bottle to you of that value (value determined by wine searcher) and when you lose you'll do the same for me...

It doesn't feel like enough to me... fancy a small wager (proceeds to REMF) that 84 points won't be enough for auto promotion (honourable draw with both paying into REMF if 2nd and 3rd [or more] both have 84 points and position therefore determined by GD)?

Mathematically, yes; we have only between 1/3 and 1/2 the points we need to avoid the drop. Emotionally, and intellectually, no, I don't think we have a chance of relegation this season. There are just too many things going right atm; it would take 4 or 5 season-long injuries, no replacements...