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Crikey this thread has become increadibly pedantic. I like that. Now, angels on pin heads. How many can you get? And does it differ if they are dancing, or just mooching about a bit?

I wouldn't join them if I was a Syrian. This is a Kurdish group.

OK. I agree with you, then. Nuance. :cheers:

Yes. Would you do that? Serious question. I don't know what I'd do. If it was England and the place had been taken over by murderous lunatic Christians . . . well its a bit hard to imagine, but I would certainly not flee. I love my country and my life in it. I would imagine I could easily...

Of course every migrant has an economic angle. But just because they do doesn't mean their plight is not real. You ask what's wrong with that first piece of dirt? Do I really need to answer that question? Why do you think that refugees should be devoid of aspiration, and indeed not allowed...

Hmmm. Imagine you a fleeing a country overrun by murderous lunatics. Imagine you are a young fit male with more than half a brain. Of course you will aim for the best economic environment your legs will carry you too. But you are still nevertheless leaving your own country because of the...

Smashing in summer (I went there a few weeks ago) but cold and dark all winter (all day). And a burger costs about 20 quid. Peopla are very nice though.