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Exactly. The viewing public assume there are rules, but there aren't. We used to watch people like Paul Daniels, and they would explain that there was no camera trickery etc - we now take that for granted and assume there's no 'cheating', but the reality is that people like dynamo use it all the...

Fair play to his close hand skills then. And if I was at a live street performance I'd probably like that too. But I wonder if what we're seeing on the screen is the same trick as the live audience were seeing - we get to see them impressed etc, but it doesn't take a lot to impress some fans...

Yes of course they are fake, but the problem is that the tv shows are edited and the real crowds are not all real. There are magicians that are so good with slight of hand etc that they don't need editing and stooges - obviously their tricks are not so elaborate though, you can't have it all...

That's easy for you to say.