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glad to learn that you were not intending what your post could have been construed as labelling disabled = lazy. Sorry for misinterpreting you.

in principle no. however it appears that you are labeling a genuinely disabled person as being lazy, unless I'm completely mis reading your meaning, If I am I'm sorry.

?? what is, you've lost me. someone working to best of their ability, a skiver? how?

I don't think there can be any excuse for anyone with what is classed as a disability being paid anything other than the money rate that their role demands. I'm sure they would work to the best of their ability and as such should get the full rate.

grr Tiger here, sorry for being long in my reply, I had gone to work by the time you posted .. you most certainly said a lot more than you admit to here .. you made suggestion that employers do not work with anyone's elses welfare at heart .. you made comment about me not paying a living or...

probably that's the case. however what I was trying to highlight is that it's so wrong for all employers to be generalised as the bad guys who are in it just for themselves exploiting their workers at all costs. the worst generalisation were the comments that if a business can't pay better...

and I don't disagree with you on this, but it also depends on what the job role is .. however assumptions were made by mikeyjh that I was still paying my people 17k, in fact the lowest person on my payroll is 18k their role is unskilled etc, the market norm for similar roles is 14,500. the next...

exactly, so according to mikejh17k which is roughly 20 percent above that isn't a decent wage .....

so then does that make 17k poor? you make comments about my business model, when you don't know what market place we are in, what that market place stands as an acceptable margin, you make comments about acceptable decent wages when you have not bothered to ask what the job roles are, and feel...

not sure who you are asking , perhaps you can say

how sad a life view that is . . enlighten me what do you do, what do you think a decent hourly rate is

Thanks Watford, I have to admit to being peed off with a certain poster on here .. small minded and simplistic posts ...

also, I have not said what my employees are currently paid, you are making assumptions it is still circa 17k, it's considerably higher than that .. as for what I pay myself that is of no concern of anyone else, yourself included My point was that in some instance people run businesses with...

you can't or won't consider a different view point to your own will you?

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and you would do what? close the businesses down that manage to hang in in there and see people made redundant? or support the efforts to keep things going through some tought times but keep staff employed?

I also refer you to my previous post,

the last line of this post it typical and utter misguided bullshit reply from a view point that really fails to see any other perspective about businesses and what their owners do, and try to do. Not just for their own ends but for the ends of their employees. I have a business that I started...