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  1. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    Not sure what you are suggesting ??? If what you say is true, which is debatable, are you not proud that our society is far more tolerant? - I am, despite being an atheist and believing in neither Christianity nor Islam.
  2. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    Spoilsport :lolol:
  3. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    How much do you want to bet :smokin:
  4. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    We don't have to put up with it - did you not watch the clip - at the time of filming 5 men had already been arrested for harassment!
  5. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    Read again what I posted - I didn't say that the persecution of the Jews was the reason we were fighting - I stated the simple fact that we fought a regime that persecuted a religious minority. Ironic isn't it that the sacrifices my father's generation made could be used to justify the...
  6. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    They were actually fighting against a regime that was persecuting a religious minority! They certainly weren't fighting for the right to be able to encourage religious intolerance!
  7. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    So much depends on how it is done and the intent behind those actions. If the intent is simply to convey my beliefs that your religion is a load of hocus pocus then that is fine - if however my intention is to display a hatred for your religion with the object of causing you offence or distress...
  8. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    Do you not see the difference between questioning a religion and insulting one? For a start one is a legal activity, the other isn't.
  9. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    It's not - if those actions had happened in the local Tescos I would expect them to be banned from shopping there.
  10. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    I wasn't having difficulty in understanding what the aims or intents of those who did this were - what I can't understand is how anyone could support on a public forum what they did, unless they want to make clear their own contempt for Islam or those who practice that religion in addition to...
  11. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    Let's for just one minute say you're correct in that assumption - does that make either tearing up the Qur'an or the Bible at a football match with the intent to offend OK? - I would say no.
  12. Creaky

    Middlesbrough fans banned for life for ripping up Koran

    I'm trying to get my head around how anyone could support the actions of someone who takes a copy of the Qur'an, a book they clearly have no respect for, to a football match. Then sets about tearing out pages, passing then to fellow fans making clear which book they were from whilst chanting...
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