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Don't get me wrong i thought it was a fantastic climb and a great days racing. I know Contador and Froome are no longer in and that there are other great riders to watch. The races for the podium places is going to be a joy to watch. All i was saying really is Nibili is clearly a man in great...

Good race. It is at this stage i am missing Contador and Froome as they would have made these mountain stages so much more and really given Nibili something to think about.

That is true. Maybe a better contest now than the TDF which i can only assume Nibili will win. Froome Contador and Quintana in the hills of Spain will be a good watch.

Without Froome what are the chances for Richie Porte today? Is he good enough to win this overall?

I hope they took some action against the driver. That is shocking and those injuries are nasty. Makes some footballers look like right pansies

A great event. No idea about the tactics although it was a great watch last year when all the teams worked on dropping the Sky boys. Froome stuck it out though. Pity the Columbian chap is not riding he would give Froome a race up those hills. Got to love the mountains