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Yes and that is a good point, however, Poyet was clearly the front man, though if you watch him even now, just prior to making an adjustment he'll have a chat with Tanno. I think Oscar's lack of presence perhaps forced Nathan into a more animated role on the touchline, though that sais I think...

Fair enough. I just didn't enjoy what I saw from a team he was involved in coaching.

Yes I do, it can help. Given the access to media these days, there is plenty of opportunity to watch games, in terms of the psychological element perhaps, but some of that is what a pre-season is about. Sometimes, by having a 'new broom' a new style also comes with it, by keeping the old...

So we didn't scrape in, then despite losing key games at home towards the end and other teams coming unstuck? Of course, we amassed more points than anyone else, but last year we were not a good team, and as per a previous post if people think we were, then they are deluding themselves. Of...

You see, as much as I'm not a fan of Nathan (you may have worked that one out), I do think it would be unfair to have someone above him, and have him relegated to an Oatway style role. Don't get me going on Obika, I'm still reeling from his first touch against Doncaster when clean through on...

But its not about a scapegoat is it, its about a fresh start, letting people make their own judgement based on what is in front of them. Do you think they'll bring in someone else as Asst. Manager? Incidentally, selling Barnes remains a stupid move and we should have at the very least matched...

Ok Sheebo, this may be fair enough, but are you able to elaborate a bit more on his input last year then, particularly from a statistical basis? We actually employ statisticians in that precise role. I'm intrigued.....

A good point, but to be fair I liked Vokes and wanted us to sign him..... He has presence and I didn't felt he did too badly during his loan spell. However, Paynter worse than Obika, I really don't think so. Obika was dreadful, no touch or presence whatsoever.

Can't see where I stated poached...... But the examples I have given are correct, Derby asked to speak to MacLaren, as did Portsouth or wherever Appleton ended up. If you wish me to put 'requesting permission to approach' ok, fair enough, but the point remains.... If he was that good, he would...

I agree. I would love it if we get up with him and Hyypia at the helm.......

There are quite a few that go on to better things, there has to be as things would stagnate. MacLaren left QPR, Appleton left WBA off the top of my head. Of course as you say those are the facts, but perhaps Bloom doesn't want to pay off his contract, perhaps he wanted Nathan to stay provide...

You may think that but then I would suggest you don't know your arse from your elbow :smile: Do you seriously think that quality was acceptable? Forest at home, they have a player sent off so we go narrow. Even an Under 10's coach would know you make the pitch bigger. Barnsley, Sheff...

If his CV is that outstanding as an Assistant as some are quoting, and Nathan by his own admission is ambitious, I haven't heard or noticed many clubs banging down our door trying to speak to him. Brighton based on the last few years are not inclined to stand in the way of individuals...

Let's start with the recommendation of Obika. Let's follow-up with being part of the most negative style of football for a long time, and being part of a coaching set-up that actually managed to take the team backwards, in terms of quality of play. We also finished lower than the previous...

Debate is fine, and just because some of us (me certainly) isn't entirely happy he stayed, doesn't mean we are anything less than 100% behind the team..... It's the ones that 'boo' them off the pitch or abuse their own team that I have an issue with.

Did you see their Development Squad play? I did and they were awful. Nathan's input was bawling at youngsters from the touchline and haranguing the referee.

Obika was an awful player. There is absolutely no evidence that Jones is a decent coach, and if last season is anything to go by, in terms of the tactics, then I would suggest it is highly debateable. Nothing to do with being Welsh, but I just wish he'd left with Garcia.