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I'm reading Red or Dead at the moment and what's so alien is how open the leagues were then. A team could win the title one season and be relegated two seasons after that.

I understand where you are coming from, but I actually think many all time football stats are as relevant as stats since the premier league began. Perhaps if stats were listed as 'all time' and 'in the last decade' it would make more sense. However, my sense is the PL brand is forcing these stats.

Agree with that. I can't stand it when the BBC, Sky and all the papers play up to Stats as if they all began in 1992. It's the same with the European Cup. You here about X player or Y team having the highest percentage in Champions League history and then you realise they are discounting all...

A long discussion? Ok, fair enough, but let me guess... Mark (I couldn't ask an incisive question in a million years because I've got my tongue so far up every club's and manager's backside) Chapman: "But what do you put back in?" MCFC ex player or some sort: "Well they do lots of good work...

I agree. I'm surprised there hasn't been more made of the death of Manchester City FC. For many of their die hard supporters this latest trophy must have a real hollow ring about it. For decades they have dreamt of lording it over their more successful neighbours and now that time has come, but...