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Likewise you can "dis" any evidence that doesn't suit your argument :wink: -

Not what I was looking for but it doesn't hold your wonderful German state in high regard and it was written by ..... oh a German news website ! http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-ticking-euro-bomb-how-the-euro-zone-ignored-its-own-rules-a-790333.html Note the section entitled -...

I'm trying to find a link to the programme I saw that explained this ( either Panaroma or Dispatches ) but can't. Basically Spain, Greece and Italy couldn't / wouldn't conform to the requirements for joining the Euro - spending versus GDP and things like that - and rather than exclude these...

But the EU did turn a blind eye to enforcing it's own rules which worsened the situation for those countries.

Correct - scaremongering at its best ( or worst ). They have no way of knowing what will be negotiated if we leave - they just assume the worst !

OJEC is the equivalent of GCAT which any EU based company can also apply to join. And therein lies the problem, too many people think we get benefits from the EU when in fact they are there regardless.

And yet non-EU members such as Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Liechtenstein have EXACTLY the same capabilities and rights under OJEC as EU members.

Cars are fairly well down the list of our main exports though.

To name but a few : High end technology such as satellite technology Medicines Food, drink and fags Weapons Fuel Chemicals Cars ( we export more than we import but I'll give you that the companies are foreign owned ) And the country we export most to ? ....... the good old US of A.

Personally I think we'd be better off out of the EU - and have been slammed for that view many a time on here but PLEASE, dump the ridiculous rhetoric and implied insults. It does the anti-EU argument no favours and supports the often used argument that those of us against the EU are somewhat...