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  1. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I could never judge anyone like you. Dont you have anything constructive to say? When we are judging everything, we are learning nothing. ~ Steve Maraboli
  2. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    The government cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
  3. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I agree.. but if you have taken the time to watch the documentary Hubris you will possibly work out that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Tenet lied.. If a government is capable of telling lies to invade Iraq do you not suspect they are also capable of telling bigger lies.. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc...
  4. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I would be interested to hear your opinion on this video. Have a listen to what explosives loader Tom Sullivan has to say.. of course I guess you may suggest that Tom is a nutter and doesnt know what hes talking about.. Lets see.. let me know..
  5. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Anything is possible yes. I could be wrong but so could you. Neither of us or anyone here can say or prove beyond reasonable doubt that the official version is correct or the CTs version is correct or even something in between. It could well be that Mossad set up the whole thing using Muslims as...
  6. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Fake footage? What footage have I seen thats fake? As for Israel.. are so that stupid to think that Israel didnt dance with a little joy? And its also a fact that the American public shows great support for Israel as shown here. Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan...
  7. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I was in New York in November 2004. I visited the site of the Twin Towers and spoke to quite a few people there, one of which had a relative who died there 9/11. None who I spoke to were convinced by the official line and wanted an independent enquiry. Thats really the point and the main reason...
  8. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I think your being silly.. of course planes went into the Towers..
  9. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    You cant have it both ways.. Please see page 41-42 of the official 9/11 commission report that states quite clearly that Cheney gave a shoot down order but officially the F16 DID NOT fire on Flight 93. Fox news reported that it was shot down. CNN reports on debris found at 2nd site approx 6...
  10. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Dip stick.. read this! Impacts and Fireballs The jet that hit the North Tower flew in perpendicular to the tower's northeast face, and impacted around the center of the 95th floor, producing an impact gash that extended from the 92nd to the 98th floor. Most of the plane apparently lodged in...
  11. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Flight 93 "Finding the flight data recorder had been the focus of investigators as they widened their search area today following the discoveries of more debris, including what appeared to be human remains, miles from the point of impact at a reclaimed coal mine"...
  12. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Robert Fisk of the Independent talks about 9/11.. "Usually, I have tried to tell the "truth"; that while there are unanswered questions about 9/11, I am the Middle East correspondent of The Independent, not the conspiracy correspondent; that I have quite enough real plots on my hands in...
  13. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Greenspan made this quote in his book as attributed here (AFP 2007) The larger picture.. regime change that supports the USA and its commercial interests. There has been regime change in recent years.. If you want to know more try here.. My words sten.. unless I quote another..
  14. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    The skyscraper as posted by slimjam did not collapse as the 3 buildings of the WTC. It partially collapsed only in the center and non of the floors that had no fire damage collapsed.. this in in contrast to the 3 buildings of the WTC.. they collapsed .. even the floors below collapsed THAT HAD...
  15. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    I feel I do have the 'thrust' of my argument but Im happy for you to disagree. Many Muslims were upset at the permanent military presence in Saudi. The continued presence of US troops after the Gulf War in Saudi Arabia was one of the stated motivations behind the September 11th terrorist...
  16. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Dick Cheney gave a shoot down order (which later was said to have been ignored by the military). This is a fact so the question is did the military shoot 93' down and then the government later decided to say that the passengers overcame the terrorists (official line) or did an F16 shoot down...
  17. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    Ditto.. its all a question of what reality you/I/we have.
  18. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    "And Neville from the farm over there found an aluminum part from the airplane's outside shell behind his barn that must've been about 8 by 10 or even 8 by 12 feet" ... if Flight 93 crashed into a hole as described by the official version how did a part of the plane end up away from the hole...
  19. Goldstone76

    Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

    It gave the USA the leverage to get into Afghanistan immediately and added weight to Iraq. The strategy is getting feet on the ground in the region. I think Bush was arrogant enough to think that Iraq would be a walk in the park hence the non existent plan for a post Hussein Iraq. Afghanistan...
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