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As I remember, we shaded it before they scored. We had some spells of intense pressure. What irked is we didn't really give it much of a go once we went behind. This really isn't helping my desire to forget about it!

Gross misconduct is such a broad church, in truth it could be something relatively minor. Say GP had got p*ssed at the Christmas party & called Paul Barber a c**t. That's gross misconduct. The truth is we don't know and we won't know.

Spot on, I'm sure he's a nightmare at times behind closed doors but he didn't air his grievances with players in public on a regular basis.

What would the results suggest?

I'm not sure Vicente has a great deal of credibility as a source. Have you seen what he had to say about Valencia's medical department? GP's relationships with the players were very good, I'm led to believe, it was one of his strengths.

Wasn't one of the main reasons we ended 11/12 "with a whimper" because we had a run of particuarly tough games. Anyway IMHO we weren't good enough to make the playoffs that year. GP did a creditable job to finish where we did. Total change of subject, how do you think he'll do at Sunderland?

I clearly remember thinking TK didn't know what to do at the start of this season. He didn't know whether to go long or short & looked shaky as a result. It appears to be on the mend now though.

Which bearing in mind he had one of the longest tenures of any manager in the football league actually means KTR was wrong really.

Well Buckley, I can argue with. You have to go back to the 11-12 season for consistent performances from him. If anything I thought he'd been a little bit better this year than last. I think you're being very harsh on PIG & Birdders as well. No doubt though, there will be some who miss the old...

His boy plays there doesn't he?