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But having 'atmosphere' is a mere booby prize for not being successful, just like TheMajor's obsession with attendances has been a mere booby prize for the fact Palace have held the whip hand over Brighton in terms of playing success. Don't get me wrong. I support Brighton, successful or not. I...

Of course, if you were a Manchester City fan, this thread would be mere water off a duck's back. It'd be likely to be seen with some validity as sour grapes from fans of a club that can't get into the Premier League towards fans of a club that have won the competition in the past two years.