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I agree with you that the Met are being too heavy on this on this, I am not disputing that at all. I just think that many football fans could help themselves and their reputation a LOT by being less antagonistic, a bit more friendly and a bit more co-operative. I know that many, many fans do...

No. Likewise, there is a reason why some people have to give instructions- police may ask you to wait a moment to let others passed or for your own safety, would you just ignore that and do what you want then? Oh, I do think for myself thank you, no need to be rude. I am just stating a point...

Depends what the instruction is surely? Do you get pissed off with a red light asking you to stop whilst driving?

I am talking about a policeman asking you to hold on a few minutes, a teacher asking you to be quiet while others are talking or a steward asking you to sit down so others can see. It it those that get into a row or argument about these sort of insignificant issues that are baffling.

Or another way of looking at it. If a few fans had not acted like utter dicks first then the police would not have put visors on, kettled us or treated us like animals.

I also find it very odd those people that have a problem with all authority- those people that hate police, teachers, stewards etc seem to have psychological issues with following instructions.

The Met got shown up? Or did Millwall fans get shown up for being utter neanderthal twunts?

No, I agree but I do find that some people react way over the top. At Selhurst the police shouted to a large number 'Stop there please, can you wait for a few minutes till we can move you on'. Most of us said ok, no problems. A large number though started shouting off, why have we got to...

What comes first though? Fans being idiots so the police react or police inciting trouble from the fans?

Probably just a threat in an attempt to get people to behave. I wish people would stop pushing the blame, if the wannabe hoolies stopped behaving like utter twats then there would not be an issue. I have put together a simple fomula Behave- the police will leave you alone and be polite Act like...

So, trouble only kicks off because the police incite and goad it? BULLSHIT. If you attend a game, behave yourself and are polite have you noticed that you never seem to encounter any problems at all, amazing that isn't it. I do not like being herded about after a game at Selhurst but the...

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