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Nibs, I think I might be on glue as I dont fully understand your post !!!

Jeeez what a load of crap you talk. You and others that wrap themselves in some warped political bubble are so tedious. She was probably into her 8th child and transferred to another bigger house before any banking crisis loomed on any financial radar, she has been on the take pre banking...

Oi Silky you silly person. You have just contradicted your original reply, but at least you are learning.

Of course tax spend effects the amount of tax we pay, why wouldnt it.

It needn't be so politicised. Personal responsibility is a reasonable aspiration in everything we do, if this is so readily dismissed then you end up with a system that is seen as too accessible and unaccountable. For most the dynamic...

We might not stop people from having children here, but it seems we do not encourage any semblance of self responsibility. I am not sure your example of either 11 children to one mother can somehow relate to 1 child to 11 sets of mothers without financial implication. By having 11 children she...

She had 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 children before she got to 11 children. Doubt at any stage she was told 'any chance of having a break from her one woman procreation effort', instead she has been continuously rewarded.

Ahhh come on ... there is not ONE endearing feature to this woman's irresponsibility or how our benefit system rewards it. We can bat around all our political 'bugbears' if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't exonerate the shear lunacy of it all.