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Halfway - position-wise. Not money-wise.

On a wider point, I think you are probably right in that it may be too early to judge. Especially as we cannot say for sure who will finish where. My concern was that the problems of last year do not appear to have been remedied yet.

I'll meet you halfway.....

One game? I didn't. You mentioned Cardiff.... not me. It is my opinion* that Hull, Cardiff and Brum will all finish Top 8. We have failed to score a single goal in any of those games. *of course, I may be woefully wrong.

I'll put huge money on that not happening. Fancy a bet? (I'm not a whelcher)

No. I said "We cannot BEAT (that says..... BEAT) a Top 8 side. You countered that with "but we drew with a top 8 side". Your argument is confusing to say the least.

Yes.... we drew. My comment was "we cannot BEAT a top 8 team".

I suppose I meant teams who "could realistically finish in the top 8". From the team's we have played so far I'd be genuinely ASTONISHED if anyone other than Birmingham, Hull or Cardiff finish Top 8. In fact, I can't see any of our other early-season opponents finishing above 14th/15th.

1. Cannot win from a losing position. 2. Cannot beat a top 8 side. So far...... nothing's changed in either regard. Hopefully it will - onwards and upwards....

You're right. Our ability to win games from behind - ACHIEVED ONCE or to beat any of the top 8 - TWO wins out of SIXTEEN games .... was not a problem at all, and with a similar record this season I have no doubt we'll win the title.

My greatest concern is that our two main problems from last season have not changed AT ALL. We cannot win games from behind. We cannot beat the quality sides. I think it is the way we play, rather than the individual players, that are the problem. Its looking like an exact replica of last season.