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So basically a post load of 'ifs'. IF Bloom is running us into the ground and IF you had all your players fit till the end of the season and IF you had won penalties and IF you get a new stadium and IF some of your youth players turn out to be decent You just keep clutching on those straws.

Ahh well that's okay then.

Could you not read one of the thousands of posts on here answering that very question rather than pose it again? In fact you don't really need to, it doesn't take a genius to work out the answer. The point most Palace fans seem to miss is that these people haven't sprung out of the ground...

Sure there was a thread full of quotes of a Palace forum mentioning how sulky he's been. You don't have to stick up for just cos he's a Palace player, that's just his personality by all accounts, an introvert guy. Don't really know what you're getting at with the whole abusing his girlfriend...

:clap: He's done it again.

He didn't make his debut because he was so good in our youth team Villa poached him (along with Michael Standing).

Well Gareth Barry is about to win the Premiership and is in the England team. He's doing alright for himself.

So the only 'confirmed' bid you've had is from Bolton, who are likely to be in the Championship next year while your last great talent is currently at Wigan, trying to prevent them from getting relegated to the Championship. What a conveyor belt of talent you have.