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  1. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    Thanks, I wonder if some of the more moderate and sane animal welfare groups could be brought in as part of the process to regulate the sport in order to find some common ground. My feeling is that public opinion is turning against the sport. I have no problem with horse racing and don't believe...
  2. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    interesting article from 2006 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/another-horse-died-at-aintree-yesterday-the-number-of-deaths-in-racing-in-the-past-year-is-now-180-473428.html MacKenzie you are obviously in the business and treat your horses with respect. Do you think their...
  3. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    which is why horses are shot when they break a leg.....as many racing fans and experts on here have said it is not commercially viable. Now my dad's ex race horse wasn't rideable for the last few years of it's life but my parents kept him.....this wasn't commercially viable as it was costing...
  4. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    Windsucking is as you say something which horses do when bored. For instance when they are kept in stables for too long, this is apprently done while training racehorses because some people do not let them roam in a paddock between training. To be honest i can't remember the ins and outs of...
  5. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    I agree that horses like to race, they are pack animals after all. One of the links i posted earlier put over a good description of why they are not designed to jump and as we are talking about jumps racing on this thread then perhaps that is more relevant. I would also suggest the wanting to...
  6. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    Well, given that I am not prepared to discount my experience of and anecdotal evidence of horses bred for racing and the fact I am not prepared to write of the information I have provided and read this morning as 'bullshit' and I am yet to see any evidence that this information is 'bullshit'. I...
  7. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    I am still interested in reading any info you have that contradicts the 'bullshit' as you put it. For the record i don't think that racing should be banned but I think the practices of many race meetings, owners, stables and trainers need to be looked at carefully. Dismissing so many...
  8. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    As a 'no mark' i think i will leave this discussion. I will leave you with this thought: Holding something in high regard because it has made you money or given you a great memory is not the same as caring what happens to it.
  9. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    You really can't see that some horse based activities are more dangerous for the horse than others? I think it is a little more that 4-5 that people are complaining about (by your own made up statistics that fugure has changed from 5-10 two pages ago to 4-5 here so it is hard to ague against...
  10. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    More horses run in flat races so more die? Is that what you are telling me? The point made by those statistics is that it is far more dangerous to race horses over jumps. Possibly because they are not naturally designed to jump.
  11. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    None of this disproves the statistics i gave.
  12. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    I await the correct statistics.
  13. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    That is called research: A 15 year study into catastrophic injuries in flat and jumps racehorses (between 1989 – 2004) was conducted by Dr Lisa Boden and presented at the International Symposium for the Prevention of Thoroughbred Racehorse Fatalities and Injuries in July 2005. Fatalities: Jump...
  14. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    Got a reference for the bit in bold? As for the rest of it. Brilliant! I'm off down the TAB.
  15. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    If I am reading stupid biased sites then please furnish me with some intelligent unbiased sites rather than the biased opinion of a self confessed racing fan. I will admit to my bias but I have also backed it up with references and statistics. will you do the same for yours? Given that, as...
  16. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    Virtually all of the meat from horses slaughtered in the UK is exported to the rest of Europe, as it is still highly prized in some countries. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/06/racehorse-slaughter-animal-welfare
  17. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    'Fed' Physical Suffering The feeding of high concentrate diets (grains) fed during training rather than extended grazing, leads to gastric ulcers - a study of race horses at Randwick (NSW) found that 89% had stomach ulcers, and many of the horses had deep, bleeding ulcers within 8 weeks of the...
  18. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    None of these links prove your statement. Some of these accidents could easily be because of injuries sustained during training or racing or as a result of ongoing mistreatment at the hands of their owners.
  19. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    So we should keep a barbaric sport because it keeps people employed? Maybe we should bring back gladiators, bear baiting and cock fights as they would all provide gainful employment.
  20. BadFish

    Syncronized dies in the national

    really? do you have any proof of this? any more depth to this statement?

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