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another thing that i got taken aback by what that i had NO idea that you had to pay to apply! it may have changed from when i applied last time (2005)....or maybe you have to pay if you're doing it independently and not through a college

no the deadline is the 15th (tomorrow) might be different if you're at college, but for MATURE students like me it's definitely tomorrow

eeek.......it's probably not too late to try someone else, they get the e-mail from ucas straight away, and the deadline is midnight tomorrow isn't it? so as long as they have access to their e-mails today you should be fine i was shitting myself, i asked my referee on monday and he took until...