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So what happens when you two meet. Do you move closer, do a bit of pushing, then get into a bundle on the ground with all your mates standing round in a circle shouting 'fight, fight, fight' until teacher comes along to break it up?

No I'm not. I have referenced reported extracts from the trial to support my OPINION that the forensics are sound. You have stated as FACT that the forensics are flawed. I am, genuinely, interested in your background to be able to do this. If you are relying on quoted elements of the trial then...

I'm not the one casting aspersions on the quality of the forensics.

How can you say the forensics are unsafe. Are you a forensics expert? Did you attend the hearings, hear all the evidence and hear something that makes you feel this? You state this as if it were a fact - it may be your opinion but its certainly not fact. And you may be right that it wouldnt...

But it only takes one to hold out to not convict (no majority verdict would have been allowe din this case I believe) and as I mentioned earlier given the percentage of people who on this thread feelk uneasy about the convictions that wouldnt have been difficult to find if the evidence wasnt as...

Thanks Buzzer - very very interesting stuff. That coupled with the jury nobbling allegations made in other instances do kind of show how brave the jury were in this instance to convict. Just imagine the fear they must have been under?

I understand what you're saying but the jury was unanimous on this. Given that on this thread with maybe 25 or so contributors we have at least 3 people who feel that the evidence may not have been compelling it is highly likely that the public opinion would have had an equal and opposite effect...

I thought this accusation was investigated and there was no evidence found and the BBc withdrew it. But I could be wrong though.

so we're talking about situations where white anglo saxons were murdered by Irish terrorists or a group or immigrants on an out of control estate caused by racial tensions as a result of those nasty foreigners. (please note the ironic tone specifically for the benefit of the hard of thinking)...

have you read any of the details of this case at all? have you read any of the now public evidence about the new technology, how the advances were made and how the defence didnt manage to put up technical experts to support their position despite trying to get a number to do so who had all...

I've corrected your post for you