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  1. Bold Seagull

    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    "we've"...since when did you speak for anybody but yourself!?
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    Did "bushy, thoughts, isnt that an oxymoron?" really upset you on a personal level? Is this a sensitive side you don't normally like to show? I would have shortened the sentence and dropped the oxy myself...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    I felt the same on my jury service. One lady did say guilty as he looked dodgy, but after a couple of hours of reviewing the evidence, I was convinced of his guilt. Even then, 2 further jurors required more time, and in looking at the evidence again, they became satisfied on a single point that...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    Dobson is currently already in prison and doing time for drug trafficking in 2010. He is quite used to life at Her Majesties pleasure...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    I think if you read Bushy's posts a bit more thoroughly, you'll find there is a bit more to his opinion than a simple concern for the British justice system...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    That made has made me chuckle. I bought my first computer in 1993, it took 5mb floppy disks, had about 8mb of RAM, and a 250mb hard drive running Mac OS 7.1. Hilarious to think that technology could transform the world, but forensic science has remained unaltered. A comical comment indeed.
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    The point they make is that while you and others on a jury may potentially have a preconceived notion of guilt, there are 12 members of a jury and each have to be convinced of the guilt based on the evidence. It is unlikely all 12 would share that preconception, which is what our justice system...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    indulge my slowness then...or can you not plainly state your point?
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    Or the Joanna Yates case? Not sure you've made a point as yet, do spell out what you're trying to say...
  10. Bold Seagull

    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    Another teenager lost to senseless violence. Hopefully his murderers will also be bought to justice.
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    That is correct, only following conviction is any previous revealed prior to sentencing. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8973998/Stephen-Lawrence-murder-jurors-did-not-know-about-Gary-Dobson-and-David-Norriss-violent-past.html
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    To be honest, if 12 of us off this thread were on the jury, it is clear a verdict would be reached on the evidence alone given some would without doubt question the reliability of the evidence, and what the media have portrayed on the case, as you and others are doing. That is British justice in...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    12 members of the jury did not think the evidence was 'tainted beyond belief'. If you have additional information that cements your assertion that it is 'tainted beyond belief' why were you not asked to present this for the case of the defence? As with any forensic evidence, the jury has to...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    The Lawrence case has only just convicted 2 people on the same principle as the Everitt case, only it's taken 17 years longer. The rest of the Lawrence gang didn't escape to Bangladesh, they're still going about their business in South London under the noses of the Met to this day. This example...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    The main difference is surely that 2 members of that gang were successfully convicted for that murder, and the police did a satisfactory job of their enquiries ensuring convictions which were sound and tested at appeal. The Stephen Lawrence's case is that those 5 gang members should have been...
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    Stephen Lawrence MURDERERS

    Would a sentencing plea bargain be on the table? It would surely be in the public interest to give a reduced sentence if either Dobson or Norris gave witness evidence against the other members of the gang, or who actually wielded the knife.
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