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Stop talking sense, this thread is about bashing toffs and liberals, not about understanding the causes of the underlying problem and the practicalities of modern life!! :thumbsup:

That was at the end of one of the BBC articles on the protests. I agree with most of the young lady's sentiments, but that last line clearly demonstrates that she doesn't understand the policy. :facepalm:

I think the question should actually be more fundamental than that, do we want an educational system that treats everyone the same, or one that recognises that individuals have individual educational needs and potential. Once we've worked that one out maybe we can start thinking about what we...

We should be inclusive in this debate, Labour should share the blame on this one please - don't forget that first degree courses were free to all prior to their election in '97.

I also marched against the Labour Party's introduction of tuition fees, and their abolition of grants (which was their more heinous crime against eduction for those with limited means in my opinion). It made bugger all difference then... despite the support of that nice lady from Plaid Cymru.