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  1. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    Everyone KNOWS that Chelsea were not the most convincing of champions this season. Why don't Wenger and Ferguson meet up and agree which team should be awarded the trophy? Or maybe they could agree to share it? Should be OK - as long as 'Arry doesn't object.
  2. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    I don't disagree with that. Brown is a dead duck. But so is Cameron. And Clegg too, if he does the deal with Cameron.
  3. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    My prediction is that they won't be able to do that - because they (and their supporters) are too far apart. Labour and the LibDems MIGHT be able to achieve an agreed plan. They will get second go at trying to achieve this - probably on Tuesday or Wednesday. If they can't achieve anything...
  4. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    I'd be happy to butt out, if you will agree to accept that none of Cameron's core policies have a cat in hell's chance of being implemented, because they will be voted down in parliament. At least this round of wheeler-dealing gives the politicians a chance of achieving some sort of coherent...
  5. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    No party in government has EVER changed its leader to coincide with a general election. It's the way the UK constitution works. Just as a matter of interest, tedebear ... when Paul Keating became prime minister of Australia, how long was it before the next general election took place...
  6. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    What about Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Alec Douglas-Home, John Major? All became Tory Prime Ministers simply by a decision of the Conservative Party to change the party leadership. Each of them subsequently called a general election. Douglas-Home lost his election, the others won...
  7. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    I think Cameron may well find out, rather sooner than he wants, that he is the next member of the exclusive club of Tory Party leaders who never became prime minister. David Cameron faces Tory party anger | Politics | The Observer
  8. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    Indeed I did, Bozza. But that was when the exit poll result was announced and well before Cameron agreed to talk with Clegg.
  9. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    Agreed. But there aren't enough Conservative MPs to prevent that happening, if Clegg decides to do a deal with Labour. And a deal with Labour might well deliver what the Lib Dems want ... proportional representation, more LibDem MPs, and a permanent role for the LibDems in running the country.
  10. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    I'm not ADVOCATING anything. I'm PREDICTING a possible outcome. We don't elect prime ministers. We elect members of parliament. I am CERTAIN that the LibDem member of parliament elected in my constituency doesn't want Cameron as prime minister. Neither do his supporters.
  11. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    It's too early to say. It seems clear that Cameron is stupid enough to do a deal with Clegg. But I don't know whether Clegg is stupid enough to do a deal with Cameron.
  12. Lord Bracknell

    Red Ivor told me..........

    Miliband or Johnson for Prime Minister, Clegg for Deputy Prime Minister. Brown for the role of "great statesman, doing the decent thing, in the national interest".

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