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I don't believe that's what I said. I'm saying that it has more support than a lot of american media paint it to have. And that the people that are opposed to it aren't necessarily opposed to it because they are selfish people who don't want to pay taxes.

He also recently said that if a universal health care bill is passed he'd leave america and move to another country. I can't remember which one he specified, but it was one that has socialised health care.

No, that the news reports are exaggerated/selective and manipulated (see my last post about misleading surveys, see also the case of Fox news showing a protest march that was said to be protesting against one thing, but was old footage of a much larger protest for something else), and that the...

Some argue that it is so expensive that it will increase the budget deficit. For some, as I mentioned in my last post it is an idealogical disagreement. It isn't the helping people they are opposed to, it's the socialism they're opposed to. I think for some it is simply fear of change, things...

A lot of americans do have this inate fear of socialism in all forms, while not realising their society has embraced it in others. Glenn Beck was at a conservative convention recently and discussed the dreaded progressivism destroying america, bringing in socialism etc. He talked about history...

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I believe I'm supposed to say "corrected for you :thumbsup:"

You probably shouldn't accuse him of "muddying the waters" then provide an example of something he was saying. That drug "could extend his life expectancy by as much as decades." Could. Might not make a difference. (And in the final paragraphs it mentions the trust want more evidence of the...

But if I'm right, as you agree I am, it's not an "either/or" thing. It's not that I have been denied life saving drugs because some immigrant got the money spent on him. Sure I'd be aggrieved, to say the least, that they'd be willing to spend an equivalent sum on an immigrant, but I wouldn't...

I was under the impression most "life saving drugs" are denied on a basis of cost effectiveness, not that we can't afford them because money's a bit tight, but "it's not worth the cost" (a cold business decision that devalues life, granted) and often because the "life saving drug" is actually...

Yeah, it just sounded like you were intimating that anyone who, like one previous poster argued, thinks helping those less fortunate than themselves is a good thing to do, i.e. will argue that we should accept health tourists because we have the means to help them (even if it does stretch our...

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I remember a segment on the daily show where they showed a clip from Glenn Beck's old show in which he criticised the american health care system for it's inherent failing, poor service, lack of compassion, high prices and the greedy insurance companies. They followed it up with a clip from his...

You take out health insurance. Like with most insurances there are lots of levels, and lots of clauses. Pay your regular premiums (monthly, quarterly, whatever). If you need treatment you need your health insurance to complete admittance forms (if not conscious/unable to complete them and no...