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But to be fair they don't need to, as has been so clearly demonstrated. They have 25,000 established fans. We have 5,000, it's renaissance time, and we are trying to rebuild and recapture a lost generation. That is a very different position to be in. You ideally would want every type of fan...

I'm sure that's what happened, but where do the planners get off, holding a gun to the club's head like that. How can that one single point be the difference between it being a good idea or a bad idea? They did after all agree to have the stadium built for 22,000 fans, it's almost like they've...

That is my understanding. Like Jamie, I think it was a wrong decision, arrived at by people who didn't really understand the implications. I think we should have battled harder on that point, and a wider canvassing of views would have been helpful. But maybe as you've hinted earlier, we were so...

Yes, there are. It's just that it's not your view. Which is the way you always argue on here, try and ridicule anyone who doesn't agree with you/the club. It's getting very boring.

I think you're spot on with what you say - however, I fear the 'pay with cash at a turnstile on the day' horse has bolted. It's a done deal IMHO. My prediction is that we will be signed up with a German company called Payment Solution, who are leaders in the 'cashless' field (did the RICOH). IF...

I always laugh at you! Nah, you must have me mixed up with some other argumentative numpty. East Angular - it's the future.

Is there still time to move it? I'm sure no one would mind if we pinched a couple of miles. :wozza:

The point I was making was about the large number of coaches for HOME fans that you get outside those two clubs. If you'd been to both, you'd recognise that. For Norwich, it's the geography of Norfolk, for Celtic it's the Catholics coached in from all over the place. But let's have it right and...

I can't understand some people's attitude to other clubs/cities. Who are we to patronise Norwich FFS, with our 5,000 fans to their 25,000? Norwich is a place that has always been patted on the head by the national media, but they have just got their heads down, got on with it, and as a result...