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It's certainly getting more and more predictable. Winners manc utd (1999, 2008) ac milan (1994, 2003, 2007) barca (2006) liverpool (2005) porto (2004) reial madrid (1998, 2000, 2002) bayern munich (2001) borussia dortmund (1997) juve (1996) ajax (1995) marseille (1993) Runners up chelsea...

Lets not forget the seeding which means even if the underdogs scrap through the qualifying rounds, they'll almost be out before a ball is kicked.

10 countries won the old european cup, only 5 have won it since the revamp :thumbsup:

If you want any tom, dick and harry to play in the European Cup then don't call it the CHAMPIONS league, simple as that. If chelsea had won it, would it have been the almost runners up league?