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  1. Curious Orange

    [Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

    The BBC have caught up on that too. Nobody has pointed out that Ed Miliband is an idiot though. BBC News - Blair says current net zero policies 'doomed to fail' https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvrwyp0jx3o
  2. Curious Orange

    [Help] Parking for Sunday v. NUFC. Struggling with website

    Did you put your number plate in?
  3. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    I have a great deal of sympathy for those trans women who have gone through bottom surgery, as they specifically are in now an awkward position, but they are in a tiny minority of a small minority. Surely it is better to work with the EHRC to ensure that the full guidance (note the use of the...
  4. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    It is understandable people might think that, but only really relevant if the lawyers for the trans lobby groups were going to have made any different legal arguments to those made in the submissions of the EHRC and Amnesty, and the Scottish Ministers (as the Respondent). Are people asking why...
  5. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    Indeed, and most people aren't problematic, and most people aren't intolerant of people going about their business.
  6. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    I think I have said before that I didn't fully understand who the trans community was, and there doesn't appear to be a consistent answer as to how it is made up, as the grouping appears to be largely self-selecting and most definitely nebulous. Certainly I don't think anyone on this thread has...
  7. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    A sensible start: BBC News - Equality watchdog issues interim guidance on single-sex spaces https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyw9qjeq8po
  8. Curious Orange

    Official Running Thread

    Probably not worth the bother recording when the majority of people won't get a place.
  9. Curious Orange

    Official Running Thread

    The London Marathon ballot is currently open.
  10. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    Interesting question, and I suspect that the context in which a given term is being used would be important. But generally speaking I think trans woman and trans man are broadly understood. So to answer your question, a male to female transitioner is a trans woman, they are still male and could...
  11. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    I agree with most of that, though I think it is more a resetting of expectations rather than taking steps back as such.
  12. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    An interesting interview from the Times with a representative from TransActual. A complaint made by the trans lobby is that there wasn't any trans lobby representations allowed to the court, which is true, but rather ignores the fact that both Amnesty International and the EHRC were making...
  13. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    I think the legal decision has actually taken a lot of the social complexity away. It is understandable that some in the trans community are upset about how the law has been clarified (not changed), but they do need to get on with it now and advocate for how their needs can be catered for in a...
  14. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    I think that that fear has rather been allowed to get ahead of the reality in some respects, but it is relevant to both groups as I outlined in post #490, and I find it somewhat disingenuous, or at least lacking in self awareness, for a trans-woman who hasn't had bottom surgery to claim access...
  15. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    That is quite a claim to make without evidence? It may well be true of a minority of individuals, but I'd suggest it is quite inflammatory of you to suggest it applies to all of them. This discussion thread has by and large been informative, respectful and understanding, lets keep it that way...
  16. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    One final point on the single sex space issue from me. Females can, understandably, be uncomfortable/feel threatened if males are present in female only spaces; trans women can also be uncomfortable/feel threatened in male spaces. The first statement is more problematic than the second*, and I...
  17. Curious Orange

    [Football] Liverpool parking on sale now

    Thanks very much!
  18. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Is having kids more hassle than it's worth?

    And the rest! @dwayne has been posting on NSC longer than you have! :ROFLMAO:
  19. Curious Orange

    [Albion] West Ham Parking Tickets - available now

    Tickets for both Sussex Uni and the Bridge are available for purchase.
  20. Curious Orange

    [News] A woman is a woman.

    Given when most religious texts were written I doubt it ever occurred to them that someday it was something anyone would actually have opinions about! :ROFLMAO:

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