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So I am guessing you don't have the courage to clarify the questions I put to you regarding this thinly veiled insult

So let me get this straight A.You seem to be suggesting that the grotesque caricature that "woke" has become from what it originally seemed, is somehow going to sort out the issues that a section of Australian society seems to have regarding women. B. I could well be wrong here but the second...

as I said if I wrote that without the clarification of not guilty then I clearly made an unintentional error.

Err I kind of have, the post where I said this was directed at the person I quoted. Go back and read it again without skimming through. Here I'll help you, this is the line you have taken offense at " If I am reading you correctly you are saying because there are so many complaints he must be...

We were just talking about what effect all the coverage might have if there were a trial, there has been an accusation of some level of sexual assault

It's not about Wallace it's about the process and where we are heading. I am absolutely opposed to the concept of "believe the victim" for the reasons I have stated. I couldn't care if there were 17 or 1700 allegations. We need to listen to the complaints, and the target of the complaints and...

Sure no one has used the word must, but they have come as close as you can without saying it. Even criticising someone for having the audacity to suggest all the media talk could prevent a fair trial.

Wow arguing for the fundamental right of all people to a fair and unbiased trial is defending them!!! He is not campaigning, just pointing out how our legal system works and how it must work. This gives me an idea of just how far down the road of Guilty until judged innocent you have gone.

Really a one sided fair trial, how does that work. Surely to be fair it must be so for both parties. You see this is a major problem. If I am reading you correctly you are saying because there are so many complaints he must be guilty, and yes if you were to put a gun to my head and say decide...

No I don't, enough people have responded and asked questions in context. That a few of you are incapable of/or can't be bothered understanding my response in the context of what I am responding to is hardly my fault. It would appear instead that you flick through the paragraph, don't bother...

Which one? Was I correct? If I was wrong I apologise

All I have done is speak in general terms about the state of things in the UK. The Wallace stuff is an example, here once again we have trial by media and people in general. I have made the point that very few people on this forum have mentioned that as it stands these are just allegations, and...

Are you completely incapable of understanding what is being said.

Of course I would accept their account of events in your example, but this is a far way from the demand by protesters for a blanket "believe the victims". This demand IS a call for guilty until proven innocent.

I have simply answered questions. If you are incapable of reading the preceding question and then my following answer, that is hardly my fault.

Being found innocent does not mean you are not guilty, it just means that you have gone through a system of testing the evidence of the claim against you. I would be happy with the slogan listen to the accuser, but believe the victim is essentially saying guilty until proven innocent, which I...

Absolutely untrue. Please show me where I have even spoken about the complainants. As to the definition of woke it has gone from meaning being awake to white middle class privilege and being aware of the discrimination that persists for people of colour and those in lower economic circumstances...

Yeah I know its difficult to follow a discussion. Lie down take a nap

The tangent started because I took issue with the hyperbolic media reaction to his behaviour, not his behaviour, which for the record I think if he is guilty he should be reprimanded. Pretty much all the comments on here treat this as a closed and shut case, he is guilty before going to trial...

No shit Sherlock. You never seen a thread have a few side threads grow out of it.