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  1. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Oops - sorry. Read your post completely the wrong way.😊 Yes, a candidate needs the backing of 20% of Labour MPs to initiate a leadership challenge. It’s not going to happen though for reasons I posted above and Labour has a long history of standing by their embattled leaders until they lose a...
  2. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Edited. Misunderstood post. Agreed!
  3. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    In theory because that’s the nature of politics but practice we won’t. - Because I neither have the time nor inclination you’ve clearly already dedicated to this thread in trying to prove the Labour Party are in meltdown and doing worse than the Tories. 🙂
  4. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Still not looking as bad. Coming clean on the state of the economy First step reforms to NHS including desperately needed dentistry investment and ending doctors strikes First step reforms to energy sector Scrapping Rwanda scheme Appointment of industry experts and shift from Whitehall...
  5. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I am hoping they don’t announce the withdrawal of the non-means tested 25% single person discount on Council Tax bills in the budget - that will be another situation that will push millions into financial hardship ( it will add nearly £400 per year on my bill that and with fuel price rises, and...
  6. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I can think of a hundred reasons why a Starmer Gvt was a better electoral choice than another 4 or 5 years of the mess the Tories got us into over the past decade but cbb. Time to put this thread on ignore.
  7. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    And yet somehow I’m being positioned by other posters as being supportive of this measure (given the likes Bozza is giving to everyone’s post - I am not making this partisan but those that have been dominating the discussion assume wrongly that I support this policy because they know I am a...
  8. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Of course it’s unpopular (FACT) but whether it is the ‘right’ thing to do as part of ‘fixing the economy’ or not is another issue. Personally if I were a government minister, I wouldn’t start with this! I’m waiting for single people to lose their council tax discount of 25% - that will mean...
  9. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I’m still a bit confused - are you saying you don’t agree with my suggestion that millionaires should not get a State Pension? Not sure where this ‘880k’ comes from or what it had to do with my post? Clearly, I am missing all the discussion over the past week not having read the thread and...
  10. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Well as I said, it would need to be higher than the usual cut off for benefits and not disincentivise - maybe there’s a need for there to be some form compulsory pension contribution scheme - people insure their houses and cars, why not insure yourself for the future? Personally, I think...
  11. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    are you agreeing me or disagreeing - I can’t make it out? Are you saying you don’t think millionaire pensioners should receive a State Pension or they should? (I haven’t really been following the thread so you will have to expand on your comment and how it relates to what I was saying please)
  12. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I wouldn’t say ‘tearing itself apart’, we are not at the level of the US yet! 😅 The elderly, the ‘poor’, the ‘sick’, the ‘disabled’ the ‘homeless’, the ‘unemployed’, asylum seekers, teachers, nurses, other public sector workers, the ‘working class’, their kids etc - All of them rightly...
  13. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    It will be interesting to compare the impact of withdrawing fuel payments with the numbers of pensioners who either died in hospital (or after being thrown out of their hospital beds and back into their nursing homes to infect others) during the Pandemic. All because the NHS, already on the...
  14. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    As @Guinness Boy said earlier, the money has to come from somewhere. We can’t keep rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic by moving piles of money around in the shrinking coffers of the public purse when what we need to do is fix the economy and the £140 billion shrinkage since Brexit...
  15. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Someone needs to brush up on our legislative process before getting all uppity with posters that know more than they do about politics 😉 - All the Bills mentioned in the King’s Speech are proposed Statutory legislation - they are NOT law - for a Bill that has been presented to Parliament to...
  16. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    He wouldn’t have been able to take his seat last week if he hadn’t. His actual words of allegiance was: "I take this oath under protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic...until that time I do solemnly sincerely and truly declare...
  17. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Here you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkgl37lp7no Allegedly :wink:
  18. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Sorry to hear that @Weststander - Hope everything is ok today and necessary care being given. (9 hour ambulance wait beggars belief - if you were rushed straight round to Resus, sounds like the 999 contact call centre didn’t triage the call very well.😳)
  19. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    This was discussed yesterday on the Labour Government 100 days thread (surely it’s a bit early to regard this as ’Labour in Meltdown’ - they’ve only been in power for 2 1/2 working days -🙄). Boosting the construction industry (which took a massive hit during Covid) and investment in...
  20. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I can’t see it making much difference potentially adding 7m voters to the register if they don’t turn out to vote. I would suggest that it’s mainly disengagement and apathy towards the main political parties rather than the complications of getting onto the electoral register in the first place...

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