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  1. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Here :dunce: Then, after a few more further denials and another GE :dunce: And here you are ironically moaning about 'liars' :lolol:
  2. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    For when you're REALLY desperate for attention and can't get any from anyone :lolol:
  3. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Absolutely, a silent, futile, pointless protest :smile:
  4. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    That'll certainly do it :laugh:
  5. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    In the hope that one of the NSC brains trust, you, @nevergoagain, @Is it PotG? or @Giraffe would make a fool of themselves and bounce this thread yet again :shrug:
  6. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I thought it was fairly well known that he got up to the very top in the CPS :shrug: And he's still way more believable than you :lolol:
  7. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    So you think one of them is going to break the law, then lie about breaking the law, and then get Starmer to lie about them breaking the law ....... Really ? :facepalm:
  8. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Johnson, Truss and Sunak were all found to have broken the parliamentary rules (in some cases many times) on not registering gifts and financial interests in the Register of member's financial interests. So now Starmer, who hasn't broken any rules (or laws, see above) and is doing exactly what...
  9. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    No. I may not have read your posts as intended, if this is a general observation about politicians declaring interests, and for that I apologise, but that's not what the Times story is saying is it ? it may also be that I'm misreading them because they seem to be interspersed and reacted to by...
  10. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I don't suppose that anyone has actually taken the time to read the story linked. This has come to light because Starmer declared these items last Tuesday as a result of seeking advice from the authorities, and the Sunday Times have got round to reporting this today. A Number 10 spokesperson...
  11. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    The problem is finding a level without introducing the huge costs of means testing this actual benefit, so you are reduced to simple measures, or blunt instruments. I have said all along that the benefits cut off is too low but Martin Lewis thinks that introducing the council tax bands A-C would...
  12. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    His suggestion of Adding Council tax bands A-C is the best suggestion I've heard throughout all of this, another blunt instrument (or simple to administer) but using both together gives a far better solution :thumbsup: This is what should be done to address that significant number who are just...
  13. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Starmer holding himself to higher standards ? Well his predecessor Johnson in his equivalent first 10 weeks Promised to get Brexit Done by 31st October and announced he 'would rather die in a ditch than delay Brexit past that date' Had the Police investigate his awarding of £126,000 of public...
  14. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    The 2M that Age UK are estimating includes the 880,000 who are entitled to benefits but don't claim. https://www.ageuk.org.uk/norwich/about-us/news/2024/as-many-as-2-million-pensioners-could-face-the-cold-following-winter-fuel-payment-cuts-says-age-uk/ But that is yet another issue that has...
  15. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I have no idea, but we do know it isn't even close to any sort of majority of pensioners, so . I have said many many many times I think the cut off should be higher, but nobody seems to have a suggestion, let alone an answer. And 'picking on the most vulnerable in society' is bollocks. For the...
  16. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Here you go for some stats https://www.yourmoney.com/retirement/huge-jump-in-the-number-of-pensioners-paying-higher-rates-of-tax/ and this lot believe there will be more pensioners than workers in the higher tax band in a couple of years...
  17. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Well if it includes the 10% who currently have an income of over 50K and the 25% who are millionaires, I can imagine it being quite large :wink: (And of course I understand that large proportions of that wealth are tied up in property and pensions, and isn't easily accessible monthly income...
  18. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I wondered how long before someone bought up 'the war' which nobody on NSC or any of these pensioners we are talking about were ever involved in :laugh:
  19. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I would support it if it didn't target 10% of pensioners based entirely on annual income and consequently bring in 10% of the figure needed. Given that 25% of pensioners are currently millionaires, I personally believe it should move the other way a bit :wink:
  20. WATFORD zero

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    As I've stated before, I would like to see the cut off a little higher, but don't know of any simple way of measuring it. Higher rate tax will currently hit 10% which would not achieve any significant savings, council tax band will measure accumulated wealth with absolutely no regard to income...

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