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Imagine the Prime Minister of a country with a figurehead Head of State going to global events to represent Great Britain. Whatever next?

The bad news for many on this thread is that Elon Musk, Twitter bots and multiple identities (thanks, ironically to the Tories Voter ID) won't be able to vote.

So if you drive a train you should never get a pay rise, no matter what the inflation rate is?

Because you’d need to find sites, build them, staff them. On the one hand it’s good to see you’re in favour of Labour’s planning reforms but, on the other, weren’t you saying you wanted lower taxes? Perhaps you’re in favour of even more stringent cuts to old people’s welfare to pay for all this?

But I didn’t say it was a uniform experience. I said bunging people in a technical college at 11 was mental. You’ve obviously got to separate pupils in a 200 pupil year group. And you can move between streams because my son did successfully.

In a country where the whole place stops twice a summer to judge an entire country's year group's exam results and where even basic office jobs are now gate kept with the need for a degree then I'd say all children do, indeed have the same needs as far as our country's attainment systems work...

Ah, I see you did have your computer on this morning. You must just have forgotten to answer my question about the nonce who was part of the far right riots on the Edwards thread. I was worried you might have considered a 4585th post an NSC Career, or maybe been spooked by an Asian bloke with a...

So if you defend it you’re a hypocrite and if you don’t you’ve gone missing. Feels kind of no win.

It was covered earlier in the thread that Age UK get a fair amount of contributions from people getting WFP who don't need it and donate it to them instead.

My intended point was to emphasise how many they'd had and why it made them an ineffective opposition full stop. You're completely right about Sunak of course but I'm not sure Jenrick or Badenoch are going to give them what they need. A lurch to the right where they'll be in direct competition...

That majority didn't know what they were voting for and were hideously lied to. Example? If we were sending £350 million a week in addition to the NHS I doubt we'd need to cut WFP for anyone.

I have an issue that they've had five different leaders since (and probably because of) the disastrous own goal of Brexit. Which is exactly why Labour have so much shit to shovel. Eight weeks simply isn't long enough for that. There are probably still 8 week old lettuces in fridges somewhere.

So good to see our strong and stable opposition effectively challenging and sensibly changing all of this. As opposed to, say, holding their 5th leadership contest since the Brexit referendum.

You're pushing the same message again and there's no point discussing it with you. However, it's factually incorrect to state that government sets interest rates in this country. Of course, that might not be what your word salad means.

So what does that leave the shortfall and where are you getting it from? As @Zeberdi has already posted the proper answer would be heating discounts for OAPs provided by the energy companies out of their huge profits. As always, too many focussed on the tiny flame and ignoring the burning building.

Absolutely all of this :thumbsup:

We will agree to disagree and that's fine. Earlier in the thread I was discussing this with two mates and I'm sure we'd put the same views over if we were talking over a pint. My point, really is that there is a black hole to fix AND public services (e.g. NHS, Education, Transport) that are in...

Read the Full Fact link I supplied which will tell you that's not the case.

That's largely semantics though. Everyone knew there was a problem. No one knew the full extent of it. And, yes, Labour will have 'kitchen sinked' this, and I expect their budget this year to be vastly unpopular. The gamble is that in a year or two things will be better and significantly better...

They said they'd only discovered the full extent of it AFTER the election. Full Fact states that, in fact, that position is a compromise. Before the election it was thought 10-20 billion by 2029 would be the issue. The audit was after the election and the in year pressures 'were greater than...