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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Couldn’t agree more. My telly went out the window a week or so ago!😁
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    I read this as meaning , ‘most in the private sector don’t get a final salary pension’. Most private sector pensions are now Defined Contribution rather than the Defined Benefit kind that Gordon Brown helped kill off.
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    He does indeed, but it far more interesting and fun to hear the ‘unvarnished’ version.😁😉
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Like you , I have been arguing that this was a serious mistake by the Labour Party and again like you, I have been totally exasperated by some on here who are unable to accept that the implementation of this policy has been a total disaster. The hypocrisy has, on occasion, been breathtaking. I...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    That is the reality of the situation for many pensioners and comes as no surprise to those of us who have pointed out the utterly shambolic way that Labour have gone about this business.
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    Clampy, I never had you down as suffering from Gerontophobia ( yes, I had to look it up!😉) I hope you don’t entirely believe your rather glib words regarding old people. I do believe that many young people have had it tough for some time and continue to do so, and that it would be right that...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Bozza’s reply to you saves me having to reply.
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I’m a comfortably off pensioner and I’m not ‘crying’ over the loss of £300 for myself or my wife, but I have been pointing out the injustice of the Labour Party penalising poor pensioners who are subsisting on low incomes, just above the pension credit level, by taking away an amount of money...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Political ineptitude by K and R, I call it. Anyway, it is good to talk/argue/discuss, and for what it is worth, yes the Mail really is an awful rag!
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    As I said earlier, it would be a start and give time for a fair system to be introduced. The startling way the policy was announced was a genuine shock, and not one that anyone saw coming, especially from Labour, the party of the underdog. I genuinely don’t believe that pensioners with incomes...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Yes, of course, our off spring are the future and one hopes that their lives will be happy and fulfilling, but that is no reason to take away a benefit from the vulnerable elderly to whom £300 is far more important to them than to you and I. The reason that this issue is dominating the headlines...
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    Heavens above , I just made a possible easy to implement suggestion as an interim measure. Surely it is better that than cutting off a benefit to those who really need it. I don’t need the WFP and readily acknowledge that. It won’t affect my life one iota if my wife and I don’t receive it, but...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Lots of these ghastly Boomers you talk of and seem to have a ‘bit of a downer on’, have a need of the NHS, have children with student loans and horrendous costs of obtaining accommodation, have grandchildren who require education, the list goes on and on. Believe you me, all these things...
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    Well, it would be a start and give time to devise a fairer scheme. Alternatively, I understand that ‘Money Expert’ Martin Lewis put forward a suggestion of giving the payment to those in the lower council tax bands….not perfect, but possibly worth consideration. Yes, the 40% bracket.
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    I don’t think most people would disagree that there is a strong case for ceasing the ‘universality’ of the WFP,(see my reply to Watford z), but there is a huge case to say that it is wrong to withdraw this benefit from those on very modest earnings just above the pension credit eligibility. As...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Indeed. I have mentioned the case for stopping the universality of the WFP on at least one of my previous posts. Your Mum sounds like a doughty lady, so best not argue!😁 I think they could have, initially, stopped the WFP for higher rate tax payers and that would have given them time to devise...
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    Sorry, fat finger, please ignore. Yes, I could. I was hoping ‘Mad Liz’ would fail in her bid to become leader. Alas, she succeeded.
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Yes, the hypocrisy of some politicians and some on NSC knows no bounds.
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Good grief, your generosity knows no bounds. It is not the pensioners who may have six figure sums tucked away that concerns the huge number of critics re the WPF, it is the unfortunate souls who fall just outside the threshold for claiming pension credit and are surviving on very modest...
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    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Well, I and many others disagree with you, including many who voted Labour and also a fair number of those who sit on the Labour benches.

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