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  1. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    No it's the Tories trying to nullify Reform because Brexit split the party down the middle. That's their main objective now. Firstly they need to appear like them.
  2. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I've never been happy with the performance of a Government, but we are just about to see a role reversible. The Tories are just about to vote their version of Corbyn in. Popular with the members, unelectable with the wider public. So I'd buckle down for the next few years, Labour can get a...
  3. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    They'll be giving back Calais next.
  4. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    It's gonna be a long ten years for you I'm so sorry. Incidentally what is the "never go again" ? Pride, vegan restaurant, non binary flower arranging workshop or a recent Sylvester Stallone film ?
  5. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    The second. With these two it looks like best people for the job. Wasn't his brother a Tory MP ?
  6. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Not an MP ? Going in the Lords ?
  7. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    It's a bit more nuanced than that in my mind and I've read deeply around the subject. I'll take onboard that the scale of antisemitism was probably exaggerated in the way that all issues in parties are exaggerated by the press and their opponents. However (and importantly) Corbyn as an...
  8. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I'm really not sure. The only insider information he had was that he was a bit crap. Hardly. He had bet against himself winning. :lolol: What a plum. It won't make a dent against the other allegations I'm afraid and Starmer (unlike Sunak) acted immediately. That's one of the traits of the...
  9. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Yes, it's incredibly frustrating and without historical context. I couldn't give a f@@@ who propped up who in the past, that's politics. I also couldn't give a toss whether they have changed their mind on certain issues. You need to see them hammered on their policies and an audience vote at...
  10. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    Absolutely, if the Labour party consisted only of old trade union members and guilty middle class intellectuals they would 80 points clear.
  11. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    I've always struggled with the Greens a bit, particularly on how they reconcile people generally moving around in things that run on petrol and immigration.
  12. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    That's the first time I heard the word watermelon used to describe extremism.
  13. clapham_gull

    [Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

    As a left of centre yoghurt knitting liberal the problem with Corbyn and his ilk are not a figment of my imagination. Neither is a figment of my imagination the appalling behaviour of the Israeli state. That said, I spoke to individuals recently on the left whose views were very very...

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