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Certainly an argument for Labour’s policy of means testing pensioners for winter fuel benefit; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gegy4r9ndo “The payment acts as a bonus to the bank balance for Nick Plowright. “My mother, who died back in 2019, was also receiving it for many years. When...

Some very objectionable posters on this thread. I can only put it down to being bitter that their party lost. Some of the insults and “facts” being thrown about are bizarre. I am, for the first time, putting a thread on ignore. Harks back to the bear pit days.

Dreaming.

Well you have forgotten very quickly what Johnson’s government was like but it seems you don’t think he did much wrong anyway. We DO know exactly how they operated during Covid so again, you’re quite, quite wrong. You’re deluded if you think others would act like they did.

They wouldn’t be. Boris Johnson’s government was a one off. An exceptional mob of criminals. We rarely see the likes of them. No other party except maybe Reform would have been so deliberately opportunistic and corrupt. It might bring you some kind of comfort to think otherwise but you’re very...

Well, really. Make sense man. The help is there. There’s little anyone can do if people aren’t willing to accept it. This whole argument is ridiculous and there is a handful of people on one side of the argument who are frankly, pompous and self righteous. Which would be fine if they were also...

I can understand that. Probably better to freeze then. No shame in that.

They’re always upset about something.

That makes no sense. Of course it balances with a tidy hundred leftover.

So we just keep giving people more and more money for free as things increase? Unsustainable.

Yes it is. If you can’t afford to heat your home, you’ll get help. To claim otherwise is disingenuous.

Pretty good start.

Agreed 100%

It’s £25 a month. For about 4 or 5 months until the pension increase. And those in poverty can get help with heating. People really need to calm down.

I’m not blaming anyone. I’m simply saying the help is there.

This is all a bit silly too; “Neil Duncan-Jordan, elected in July as the Labour MP for Poole, said the argument that people in need could just apply for pension credit and get the payment missed the point of the current universality. “Means-testing is supposed to target help at those who need...

Yes because the Tories would have done it to line their own pockets and not to fix the economy. I think the bottom line is that the U.K. pension is pathetic. Lowest in Western Europe, I think. At least Labour are upping it. Not by enough but it’s something . Either way, if we had a decent...

Quite.

I simply think you are overestimating the impact this will have on the elderly. Those who really need the help will get it.

I think perhaps calm down. And don’t jump to conclusions. A few people you are berating for “not caring” are in caring professions and work with vulnerable people. Just perhaps be mindful and give some rational thought to other people’s opinions.