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Starmer apponted her to HIS cabinet when Labour won the election in July. Are you now saying he didn't know (or she didn't tell him....)

Agree that's it's minor and agree it's small fry when compared to the last lot - just shows poor decision making by Starmer to put her into his cabinet in the first place.

Agree - my point is that Starmer knew he was putting a criminal into his cabinet - shows poor judgement.

We all know the Tories what the Tories were - that's why they were voted out. We all hoped for better.

The point here surely is that Starmer knew all of this before apponting her to the (then) Shadow Cabinet. Poor judgement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7819kmz98vo

I'm not interested in Johnson, Truss and Sunak - all broke the rules - agreed - there's no argument there - two now gone and the other one soon to go - bye bye. Why, however can a few (in fact I think it's only you) people not see that we're not talking about whether he broke the rules or not...

Spending tax as if it was their own money would be a good start. Starmer himself said last week of the NHS, "It's reform or die" Money is not the only answer. (Mrs works in the NHS and is staggered by the waste on a daily basis)

I've read the story. Yes, he was late in declaring - certainly a mistake, but as you say he was seeking advise, I get that. That's not the story here. Why is he taking these donations? Why is another man paying for his wife's clothes? (And his glasses!) - it's a terrible look - the money...

Yes, Brexit has long divided (and still does the Tory Party) On your second point, IMHO, if COVID hadn't happened Johnson would still have been their leader - certainly going into an election. His dreadful handling of the pandamic being the reason for his downfall No Covid, No Truss , no Sunak?

I don't. The Tories were a complete s**t show. Dreadful and deserved to be booted out. I am hoping for far, far better from the LP, that's all.

Tories are a shambles. We know that. But does that mean the LP should follow suit?

What's that got to do with pensioners? I guess that as you've lost the argument on WFA you're onto something else. I don't disagree with you on PIP BTW

The Tories were F***ing useless self-serving T**ts who quite rightly took a good kicking at the last election. The Labour Party should be better than this - yet only one MP (that's not alrady suspended) had the balls to not vote against it. No doubt the others will trot out the 'difficult...

Agree with that, been handled very poorly - gives the impression that GKR couldn't wait to get this news out - as you say, the budget would have been the time (although I strongly disagree with witdrawing WFA, so don't think anytime would have been the right time) as at the moment it appears...

Remind me - when do fuel bills go up? Yep, that's right, October. When does the pension increase kick in? Yep, right again, April. Might be too late for some pensioners. Listen to the Charities - non-political -they know this is wrong. You know this is wrong. Lots of Labour MPs know this is...

Hardly surprising is it. Give the unions what they want and let some pensioners choose between heating and eating.

100% this, this and this.

Be interesting to see which Labour MPs vote against it or abstain.

Agree with pretty much all ofthat. Ok - so why single out pensioners?