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I wonder if Wieffer has a sell on clause? :wink: Interesting article though about Feyenoord using a similar approach to TB’s data analytics to come up with Brighton being the best destination for Wieffer (or any other players to other clubs). Can see why it elevates the reputation of the Club...

Yes. Sounds exciting. We need some muscle and aggression in the MF although I see both Baleba and Weiffer playing a DMF/CB role primarily- would still like to see us sign another attacking MF player that will play the sort of role Hartel did at SP. (Similar to how we used Alexis).

Doesn’t seem to be any news since Sunday when Fabi Romano quoted 1908.nl that covers Feyenoord Original article (apologies if fixtures) - click on Aa in search bar for translation. https://1908.nl/artikelen/brighton-concreet-voor-wieffer Interestingly, Hürzeler was on the shortlist for...

I realised that which is why you got an unwanted history lesson :lol: - Most analysis of the Libero begin quite rightly with the coach that invented the defensive Libero/sweeper role in Switzerland who also used a MF that dropped back behind the CBs as a 4th defender and then its separate...

Rappan’s Libero? Yes. The role was ‘sweeper’ to drop out of MF assist the defenders but the role of the Libero developed into more (as described above) so ‘sweeping‘ became one aspect of a fuller role that was more than ‘just’ defensive, it also became an attacking role too by launching...

Don’t read if too long but the following may be of interest 🙂 Historically, the ‘libero’ since it was conceived by Rappan in the 1930s, has developed in several different ways but originally the libero dropped back from MF to join the back line in defence rather than it being a CB role that...

Yeah, I see that now but it wasn’t clear because @Machiavelli and I ( @Machiavelli was replying to a question that was meant for me) had been specifically referring to the Hürzeler CB/CDM role. Btw - We have actually tried something very similar once or twice under RDZ however with Baleba in...

Not really. JP played a DCM pivot in a tight positional DCM role (similar to Weiffer’s role at Feyenoord but not a ‘libero’/CB/DCM. Webster was in a back 3, yes, but as a dedicated central CB. In Hürzeler’s startup, the CB is the DCM out of possession. It was a slightly different system...

Yes, that’s more or less the system as I understand it (with minor tweaks) My thinking is that the build up from the back in ‘Fabi-ball’ is different to De Zerbi-ball - because there is only 3 at the back, there is less circulation between the GK and defenders/WBs - the play is stretched into...

I don’t. I don’t know why you would get that impression from a post that clearly demonstrates in several ways that Weiffer’s background at Feyenoord is as a Central Midfield Defender - did you actually understand any of the post or even read it?. That’s the whole point of my post and previous...

It just was a minor something that was mentioned in the analysis I posted above but I also picked up on in watching some (old?) videos. I was looking at his stats from 2022/23 - where he picked up 9 yellow cards - 3 in the Europas. Interestingly, in 2023/4, he seemed to be used higher and his...

Well of course - the role wasn’t there before Hürzeler took over. It was the role I was referring to in Hürzeler’s system not who Smith was as a player before Hürzeler. I agree he is probably closer to anyone else at the moment on paper but I think he has some weaknesses in his defensive...

Would be nice to see a few videos where he is actually playing CB out of possession - they all seem to be him playing a CDM/CM role in attacking sequences - I’m not sure he has he even played CB at senior level has he? How do you rate him as a CB? Good enough to play the central defender in a 3...

Sorry - edited my post to make it shorter. My opinions don’t count more than anyone else’s on here but I think he is no more or no less than what we can expect for £30m - a good mid-level recruitment target that needs some training/more development under a manager who has a clear DNA to his...

ah - euros. I misread the earlier comment as being 36 million in sterling. Hence me saying £30m would be a better asking price :sneaky:

He seems a very competent, developing and positionally flexible midfielder so a ‘typical’ Brighton mid-level target but he’s not ready to step straight in and carry out the CB/CDM combination in the way Smith did at FCSP - not without a bit more development and training imo. My concern is...