Duffy

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

But this apparently impeccable source is saying a loan, so only a small amount of up front money. So that wouldn't work before we even have to re-open tedious discussions of White's loan contract or desirable striker availability

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Where does the linked article say anything about it only being a loan? Anyway, why would Dunk'n'Duffy want to take a step down? ...................... oh yes, doubling their wages might be a consideration I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Mustafa

In all seriousness though... something like this could happen, if the club is engineering some radical transfer activity to save our season.

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Duffy to West Ham for a fee.

White recalled from Leeds.

Money made available for a striker.


Well, one can dream.

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£150M - £200M for the pair, plus Haller on loan for 18 months (with West Ham paying 100% of his wages) - hmmmm .......... go on, I'm getting slightly interested! Get Ostigard back from loan as well as White.
Plus a gentleman's agreement that West Ham will curl over and give us 6 points a season as long as we're both in the PL ............ oh, I'd forgotten the Dildo Brothers. Forget the gentleman's agreement.

Duffy is very limited. Effective if we're defending for 90 mins but crap when it comes to the ball at his feet. I'm shocked that some fans rate him higher than Webster. Reminds me of the days when people thought CMS was better than Barnes

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Duffy is very limited. Effective if we're defending for 90 mins but crap when it comes to the ball at his feet. I'm shocked that some fans rate him higher than Webster. Reminds me of the days when people thought CMS was better than Barnes

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Did you go to Bournemouth last night?

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

Did you go to Bournemouth last night?

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Pretty sure Duffy didn't play

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Originally Posted by GT49er

Where does the linked article say anything about it only being a loan? .

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The person the OP was talking about said a loan. The article is blatantly bollocks

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Pretty sure Duffy didn't play

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But Webster did. The latest in a string of poor performances.

He might come to something Webster, but it won't be any time soon.

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Originally Posted by Weststander

We need to ship out the deadwood this month (Duffy, Stephens, Bong and Muzza), to give our technicians a fair crack at our last 14 PL matches.

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We're leaking soft goals, Duffy may not be the best passer in some poor man's Brendon Rogers system. But he's a rock, he'll throw himself in front of anything, he's one of the best defenders in the club and half of one of the most successful defensive partnerships ever at our club.

We don't just need to score to win, we need to stop poor defending.

It's truly beyond madness if true.

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

The person the OP was talking about said a loan. The article is blatantly bollocks

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OK, cheers.

A loan would be even bigger bollocks than the linked article though.

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Originally Posted by GT49er

Where does the linked article say anything about it only being a loan? Anyway, why would Dunk'n'Duffy want to take a step down? ...................... oh yes, doubling their wages might be a consideration I suppose.



£150M - £200M for the pair, plus Haller on loan for 18 months (with West Ham paying 100% of his wages) - hmmmm .......... go on, I'm getting slightly interested! Get Ostigard back from loan as well as White.
Plus a gentleman's agreement that West Ham will curl over and give us 6 points a season as long as we're both in the PL ............ oh, I'd forgotten the Dildo Brothers. Forget the gentleman's agreement.

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The article is a month old - Dunk isn't going there.

This is about Duffy - which seems slightly strange as well, but could happen.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Duffy is very limited. Effective if we're defending for 90 mins but crap when it comes to the ball at his feet. I'm shocked that some fans rate him higher than Webster. Reminds me of the days when people thought CMS was better than Barnes

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He’s not that bad with the ball at his feet, do we need both centre backs to be able to bring ball out and into midfield ?
I’d rather him doing what he does best than Webster taking the ball out and up the pitch but losing possession in the centre circle then having to sprint back towards his goal as the ball is played up behind him.

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

But Webster did. The latest in a string of poor performances.

He might come to something Webster, but it won't be any time soon.

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Webster's a very good defender. You'd have to be blind with half a brain missing not to see that.

I remember when Dunk used to get this similar sort of criticism (Selhurst park sending off springs to mind). Oh and look how he turned out.....

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Originally Posted by Stat Brother

Yep GPott clearly doesn't rate Duffy as a footballer.

It's just a shame he also happens to be one of the worlds best defenders.

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True enough....


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Moyes gave Duffy his debut didn’t he?

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

So that says West Ham would like to sign Dunk and Duffy. Well yes, i'd like to get it on with Ariana Grande

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And I always fancied havin a '' 9 inch Willy '' but sadly it wasn't to be

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Originally Posted by peterward

We're leaking soft goals, Duffy may not be the best passer in some poor man's Brendon Rogers system. But he's a rock, he'll throw himself in front of anything, he's one of the best defenders in the club and half of one of the most successful defensive partnerships ever at our club.

We don't just need to score to win, we need to stop poor defending.

It's truly beyond madness if true.

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In a thread of irony/sarcasm, I didn’t mean it. I rate Duffy.

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Originally Posted by Don Tmatter

He’s not that bad with the ball at his feet, do we need both centre backs to be able to bring ball out and into midfield ?
I’d rather him doing what he does best than Webster taking the ball out and up the pitch but losing possession in the centre circle then having to sprint back towards his goal as the ball is played up behind him.

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I have never seen this happen - more like a jog :moo:

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Originally Posted by Don Tmatter

He’s not that bad with the ball at his feet, do we need both centre backs to be able to bring ball out and into midfield ?
I’d rather him doing what he does best than Webster taking the ball out and up the pitch but losing possession in the centre circle then having to sprint back towards his goal as the ball is played up behind him.

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Did you observe any of his positives last night or was it all just negative from him?

My money is on your analysis of him being just negatives. God knows why?

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Webster's a very good defender. You'd have to be blind with half a brain missing not to see that.

I remember when Dunk used to get this similar sort of criticism (Selhurst park sending off springs to mind). Oh and look how he turned out.....

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Webster is miles behind Duffy in terms of actually defending, he’s not particularly strong in the air, isn’t very physical, can’t track a runner to save his life, isn’t actually anywhere near as good at distributing the ball as people think, but he does have a nice touch and squares a mean 10 yard pass to Dunk.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Webster's a very good defender. You'd have to be blind with half a brain missing not to see that.

I remember when Dunk used to get this similar sort of criticism (Selhurst park sending off springs to mind). Oh and look how he turned out.....

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Ok. My half minds eye sees it different at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Webster's a very good defender. You'd have to be blind with half a brain missing not to see that.

I remember when Dunk used to get this similar sort of criticism (Selhurst park sending off springs to mind). Oh and look how he turned out.....

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Dunk was criticised because the Selhurst red card was a rash tackle very early on, I don’t recall him receiving much criticism for his defensive ability.

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

Webster is miles behind Duffy in terms of actually defending, he’s not particularly strong in the air, isn’t very physical, can’t track a runner to save his life, isn’t actually anywhere near as good at distributing the ball as people think, but he does have a nice touch and squares a mean 10 yard pass to Dunk.

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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

This is simply unbelievable. How can you even put them in the same bracket? Webster is clearly better than Duffy. Look at the league table, only 5 teams below the top 4 have conceded less than us and 4 of those teams occupy 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th place. Incredible achievement by us considering how shite Webster is......

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

Dunk was criticised because the Selhurst red card was a rash tackle very early on, I don’t recall him receiving much criticism for his defensive ability.

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I suppose you're going to say everyone rated Wood and Barnes when they were here too?

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Originally Posted by seagullwedgee

No, this cannot be true..... surely not.....

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Out for the season ?


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Originally Posted by *Gullsworth*

I've heard Duffy to West ham as I have said on a previous thread.

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Yes, but you’d heard Mooy was pretending to be injured so he could sort a move to China so I’ll take what you say with an Everest of salt.

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

Things that make me doubt this is true

West Ham are only just below us and are one of a small number of direct rivals for relegation
Burn's injury
Webster's form
Dunk's yellow card situation
White's Premier League inexperience
The fact that we wouldn't get much up front money for a loan
An already uneasy relationship between club and fans

Things which make me think it could be plausible

We've done stupid stuff like getting rid of players we need because of perceived playing style already this season
Duffy needs to play, so i'm sure he would like a move
He gave the fans a big clap last night

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Here’s another reason to think it’s not true.

The thread was started by a sad, lonely man who tries to feel the gaping void that is his life by pretending to be ITK about Brighton on NSC. He’s been wrong time and time again, most famously “Bloom is going to sue Kick It Out” and most recently “We are signing Samatta.”

I’m actually starting to think it’s all an elaborate wind up, because no one man can be so full of complete and utter guff.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

I suppose you're going to say everyone rated Wood and Barnes when they were here too?

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Erm, well I actually did rate them :shrug:

If GP lets him sign for West Ham and help keep them up then they deserve all that they get ie relegation.

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

Erm, well I actually did rate them :shrug:

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Oh right, I guess that means everyone else did too?

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Originally Posted by BensGrandad

If GP lets him sign for West Ham and help keep them up then they deserve all that they get ie relegation.

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Who are 'They' you speak of :moo:

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Originally Posted by BensGrandad

If GP lets him sign for West Ham and help keep them up then they deserve all that they get ie relegation.

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How can Duffy help keep them up and then West Ham ‘deserve’ the relegation they get. Are you talking about the 20/21 season?

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Originally Posted by Weststander

In a thread of irony/sarcasm, I didn’t mean it. I rate Duffy.

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Subtley whooshed!

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Originally Posted by Whitechapel

I’m actually starting to think it’s all an elaborate wind up, because no one man can be so full of complete and utter guff.

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BG has just entered the fray :moo:

They was referring to all the top bods at BHA and us getting relegated which is looking more likely after each game.

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Originally Posted by SIMMO SAYS

BG has just entered the fray :moo:

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Te he

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Oh right, I guess that means everyone else did too?

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Erm, I doubt it, what’s you’re point?

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Originally Posted by Whitechapel

Yes, but you’d heard Mooy was pretending to be injured so he could sort a move to China so I’ll take what you say with an Everest of salt.



Here’s another reason to think it’s not true.

The thread was started by a sad, lonely man who tries to feel the gaping void that is his life by pretending to be ITK about Brighton on NSC. He’s been wrong time and time again, most famously “Bloom is going to sue Kick It Out” and most recently “We are signing Samatta.”

I’m actually starting to think it’s all an elaborate wind up, because no one man can be so full of complete and utter guff.

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Not quite accurate with what you’ve put in quotation marks there old chap. I said on the Kick It Out issue, Bloom was outraged, and taking legal advice. Which he did. On the Samatta prospect, I said a conversation had started, and nothing else. Which it did.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

Webster's a very good defender. You'd have to be blind with half a brain missing not to see that.

I remember when Dunk used to get this similar sort of criticism (Selhurst park sending off springs to mind). Oh and look how he turned out.....

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Webster has not yet shown here he's a very good defender imho. Obviously with his career to date, he's done ok..... But at this level and for 20 million has he shown himself to a great defender or even one of the 2 best centre halves at defending?.
The answer is No.

I'm sure everybody wants him to be brilliant and be a success, as with any player wearing the stripes, and hopefully he will, but he's not done enough yet and at times has been poor defensively.

Rio Ferdinand was a pretty Good ball playing centre half (who could also defend), John Terry wasn't a ball player, nor quick, yet I'd argue Terry was the better actual defender and certainly the guy you'd want in a scrap.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

This is simply unbelievable. How can you even put them in the same bracket? Webster is clearly better than Duffy. Look at the league table, only 5 teams below the top 4 have conceded less than us and 4 of those teams occupy 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th place. Incredible achievement by us considering how shite Webster is......

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We defend as a team, our record is inspite of Websters errors and others errors to, not because of him being great.

I'm with @DarrenFreemansPerm Duffy is by far a better defender right now, full international, much more physical, much better aerial presence, 2 seasons of PL experience

I heard this one a little while ago but didn't believe it, especially after last night's defensive calamities.

Have I missed something? Has @seagullwedgee even said what the news is, as all I’ve read is everyone jumping to conclusions??

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

Erm, I doubt it, what’s you’re point?

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My point?

You're claiming Webster is miles behind Duffy even so we're looking to loan Duffy out whilst keeping Webster who's been a regular all season. But you obviously know better than Potter who has only kept us above the relegation zone all season not to mention his previous achievements with other clubs.
It seems you're so desperate to criticise Webster you're even denying the likes of Barnes and Wood were poorly judged (which can't be argued ) by our fans when they were here just so you can maintain your argument that Webster is "miles behind Duffy". Thats pretty desperate when it comes to criticism if you ask me.

Why did I bring up Barnes in relation to your opinion of Webster I wonder? I guess you probably/conveniently won't understand that too?

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Have I missed something? Has @seagullwedgee even said what the news is, as all I’ve read is everyone jumping to conclusions??

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No doubt I’ll be misquoted for this as well, but here goes. He had a falling out with GP over lack of game time, and a deal is very close now.