Duffy

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Originally Posted by peterward

Couple of Celtic fans comments on the big fella after tonight's game, a few of theirs share similar views to a few of ours!

https://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/shane-...7376-s680.html

" Good header for the goal. Passing was dreadful."

"His biggest weakness has always been the Hollywood passes. For some reason he thinks he is Ronald Koeman when he has five yards of space in his own half, or maybe it is Ronald Colman, either way he thinks he is Mr. Hollywood and someone should have a word about it."

"Duffy was never a passer so this shouldn’t be a surprise

He brings plenty of other qualities"

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.....and more importantly Potter’s.....

Webster hit 2 or 3 fabulous passes on Monday that Duffy couldn’t hit in a million years (and against Chelsea, not Kilmarnock). Duffy is a great old-skool defender and particularly strong in the air and was one of the key reasons we got promoted, but Webster is already a much better all-round footballer and far more suited to our style of play.

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

I appreciate you’re trying to be clever, but I think you might have the missed the point. If you read my post again you’ll notice I said Webster is miles behind Duffy when it comes to defending, a statement that I’ll stick by. Webster is a decent all round defender, but he doesn’t particularly excel at one particular thing, Duffy is dominant in the air and strong in the tackle, he’s very old school but he’s just a better defender than Webster. Now, is Webster a better player overall? For Potter’s system you’d have to say yes, but ask yourself if Burnley we’re going to sign either Webster or Duffy, who would they choose? They’ve got different skill sets which are suited to different teams, managers and styles of play.

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They'd buy Webster all day long.

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Originally Posted by Megazone

They'd buy Webster all day long.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Plooks

No, he was not even close to being dodgy. He has a great season. He became more consistent in the second half, yes, but he was NEVER "dodgy at best" - that is just utter bullshit.

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The way I remember it, Webby had a U shaped season. He started the season very well. Then we switched to 2 at the back about 6 weeks into the season and his form dropped off. He had two or three very poor games around the xmas period, but then recovered and was decent in Feb and one of our best players after lockdown

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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

The way I remember it, Webby had a U shaped season. He started the season very well. Then we switched to 2 at the back about 6 weeks into the season and his form dropped off. He had two or three very poor games around the xmas period, but then recovered and was decent in Feb and one of our best players after lockdown

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Yes. My view as well.


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Originally Posted by blue-shifted

The way I remember it, Webby had a U shaped season. He started the season very well. Then we switched to 2 at the back about 6 weeks into the season and his form dropped off. He had two or three very poor games around the xmas period, but then recovered and was decent in Feb and one of our best players after lockdown

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And it was during his poor spell when we were playing more of a traditional flat back 4 that many fans, myself included, were calling fire the inclusion of Duffy due to his excellent partnership with Dunk in that formation.

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

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So if a club who finished top half of the Prem had the choice between a Brighton defender who started all last season and still is 1st team, or a player who sat on the bench for the Albion last season and now has been loaned out to Celtic in the SPL, they'd pick the player who couldn't get in to the Albion starting 11 because they want defenders who played well in the Championship?

Remember what you were saying about Webster earlier this year. Not sure your judgement of a footballers ability is really what Burnley could do with in that supposed scenario

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Originally Posted by Megazone

So if a club who finished top half of the Prem had the choice between a Brighton defender who started all last season and still is 1st team, or a player who sat on the bench for the Albion last season and now has been loaned out to Celtic in the SPL, they'd pick the player who couldn't get in to the Albion starting 11 because they want defenders who played well in the Championship?

Remember what you were saying about Webster earlier this year. Not sure your judgement of a footballers ability is really what Burnley could do with in that supposed scenario

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Defenders come in all shapes and sizes, they have varying skill sets and abilities, different teams with different playing styles need players that suit their particular brand of football. Burnley play a very rigid, defensive minded backs against the wall style. Duffy would suit Burnley. Now, if we were talking about a side like Wolves who like to play football all the way through the team and predominantly pick a back 3 then they would choose Webster as his passing game and mobility works be far more suited to their style.
I acknowledge your dig at my perception of defenders, but equally I can throw that back at you as you clearly can’t differentiate that two centre backs may have completely attributes and can offer more than the other to different styles.

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Originally Posted by DarrenFreemansPerm

Defenders come in all shapes and sizes, they have varying skill sets and abilities, different teams with different playing styles need players that suit their particular brand of football. Burnley play a very rigid, defensive minded backs against the wall style. Duffy would suit Burnley. Now, if we were talking about a side like Wolves who like to play football all the way through the team and predominantly pick a back 3 then they would choose Webster as his passing game and mobility works be far more suited to their style.
I acknowledge your dig at my perception of defenders, but equally I can throw that back at you as you clearly can’t differentiate that two centre backs may have completely attributes and can offer more than the other to different styles.

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I respect what you're saying and does have logic to it but when a defender is being selected, it's their defensive attributes which will always come first-off regardless of what style the team may play. Duffy isn't good enough for a team in the top half and I doubt he will standout for Celtic. Yes he's good at defending and attacking corners but whatever style you want to play, when it comes to defending, it's all about how you cope with the oppositions tactics and Webster doesn't look at all out of his depth unlike some of those games we saw Duffy being completely destroyed by pace.
I really doubt Potter wanted to buy a defender for the price he did who was actually worse at defending than who he had intending on replacing. He wouldn't have been stupid enough to have just seen Webster's on the ball qualities and decided that was all that was required.

So with this talk of Burnley transfers is Webster the new Barnes and isn't this thread meant to be about Shane Duffy?