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[News] Air India flight AI171 Ahmedabad -> London Gatwick crashed



METALMICKY

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The professional pilots on PPRUNE say puffs of dust are entirely normal on that runway as the side of the runway is dusty and the wings of big planes overhang it. This video shows it as normal at that rotation point.



There are also ex Air India employees coming out of the woodwork to denounce their safety.

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Yeah, it’s the Mail. Terrorism would be in their agenda’s interest, whereas damage to a company like Tata wouldn’t.

The PPRUNE guys are split between a twin engine failure caused by a full electrical failure (which is supported by the fact the in flight entertainment, air con and steward call failed on the previous flight) and pilot error.

Those guys views on the recent New York helicopter incident was also pretty interesting. Not forgetting I'm always interested in this chaps opinion :rock:

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Triggaaar

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The professional pilots on PPRUNE say puffs of dust are entirely normal on that runway as the side of the runway is dusty and the wings of big planes overhang it. This video shows it as normal at that rotation point.



There are also ex Air India employees coming out of the woodwork to denounce their safety.

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Yeah, it’s the Mail. Terrorism would be in their agenda’s interest, whereas damage to a company like Tata wouldn’t.

The PPRUNE guys are split between a twin engine failure caused by a full electrical failure (which is supported by the fact the in flight entertainment, air con and steward call failed on the previous flight) and pilot error.


If it really was a faulty aircraft that the crew warned about, I would expect air-crash investigators to find out, and that should be the end of Air India. I'm not saying it will be, but it should be.
 


indy3050

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Woke up this morning having hoped that the fam hadn’t realised it was Friday 13th to see this had happened. Thankfully they all avoided the news and landed in London and I don’t think they know even now!

Some comfort I took before getting on my flight was that it probably wasn’t a better time to fly!

My thoughts and condolences with the families of all affected.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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I think you've got two and three the wrong way around. You need to seek permission for an emergency landing at your preferred airport.
No he hasn’t. You’re not going anywhere if you can’t fly.

It’s a well known “learning” saying that’s all over PPRUNE.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Yes and the mid gig rants!
Whilst I was a huge fan as a kid, I don’t follow them these days bar odd gig for nostalgia. Does Steve Harris do much media? The press and social media seems to be more Bruce and Nicko but I’d be quite interested to hear more from Harris.
 




METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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Whilst I was a huge fan as a kid, I don’t follow them these days bar odd gig for nostalgia. Does Steve Harris do much media? The press and social media seems to be more Bruce and Nicko but I’d be quite interested to hear more from Harris.
No, Steve is an incredibly reserved character. Of late Bruce and Adrian have been doing the most press what with their respective side projects. Nicko has now retired from touring after his stroke and will be interesting to see how his replacement Simon Dawson fairs in 2 weeks time at the London Stadium gig.
 


peterward

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I think you've got two and three the wrong way around. You need to seek permission for an emergency landing at your preferred airport.
No, 2 and 3 are the right way around.

In a Mayday situation, Air traffic control will bend over backwards to give an aircraft whatever it wants or asks for.... "communicate" isn't just air traffic control, but also the cabin crew with whom they'll be an emergency briefing and the passengers.

Priority is to fly/control aircraft (aviate), then to be situationally aware of direction/terrain/weather/fuel which = time remaining (navigate), then to talk (communicate).

You dont want to be talking to air traffic or cabin crew and flying 50 miles away from airport, into a Thunderstorm or towards terrain!
 


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