[Football] Ange

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Weststander

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Awful manager, he beat some low budget European clubs and edged an equally awful Manure. The only achievement was beating Frankfurt 2-1 on aggregate.

His PL form in his last 66 games was:
23 wins
9 draws
34 losses
78 points
= 45 points per season form, despite having a €787m cost squad.

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Kinky Gerbil

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Awful manager, he beat some low budget European clubs and edged an equally awful Manure. The only achievement was beating Frankfurt 2-1 on aggregate.

His PL form is his last 66 games was:
23 wins
9 draws
34 losses
78 points
= 45 points per season form, despite having a €787m cost squad.

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He's a god awful manager
Injuries players
Egotiscal
Doesn't do training ground work as such
Inflexible
 




Weststander

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He's a god awful manager
Injuries players
Egotiscal
Doesn't do training ground work as such
Inflexible

Did you listen to White & Jordan last week? Jordan, plus a Celtic caller and a Spurs caller seemed very nostalgic about Ange. Promoting a bullshit theory that Levy & Ange met last December to agree that Levy didn’t mind how many times they lost in the PL as long as Ange won the EL. For so many obvious reasons utter tosh, not least the jeopardy that at that moment it was long call to say they’d win it, plus £1.7m per PL place.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Did you listen to White & Jordan last week? Jordan, plus a Celtic caller and a Spurs caller seemed very nostalgic about Ange. Promoting a bullshit theory that Levy & Ange met last December to agree that Levy didn’t mind how many times they lost in the PL as long as Ange won the EL. For so many obvious reasons utter tosh, not least the jeopardy that at that moment it was long call to say they’d win it, plus £1.7m per PL place.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, Levy doesn't work like that and it's short sighted to put all the European eggs in one basic when it was still possibly to recover into 8th and a potential European spot.

Jordan and Levy are pretty close, well he claims they are, I'm sure he knows Levy wouldn't forfeit the league for the EL completely.
 


Eeyore

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If they did decide to sack him, I wonder that Silva would be the better of those two options

The news is speculative though.
 


















BevBHA

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Would be good for us for 2 reasons the first one is Brentford losing Frank would be good. Second because I just can’t see Frank doing well at a big club, mainly because his style of football is awful.
 




JBizzle

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He's still a terrible manager.
I struggle to see what's "Spursy" about it?
He's a terrible manager who won a trophy and qualified for the Champions League, more than any other Spurs manager has managed to achieve in the modern era.

I know it's impossible to countenance "success" being more nuanced than league position, but it is what it is.
 


Lady Whistledown

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If they did decide to sack him, I wonder that Silva would be the better of those two options

The news is speculative though.
Isn’t he off to Juventus? Or Saudi?
 


A1X

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Hope it is Frank, could start the picking apart of Brentford
 






Stato

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I can't join in the condemnation of his abilities. It all looks a bit mid era Graham Potter to me only with a European trophy and Potter's methods eventually came good for us.

They are about 12 points below where their Xp suggests they should have been. They were second to us on days lost through injuries and, until we stuffed them on the last day, they still had a positive goal difference. When the injury problems were at their worst, he has brought through some decent looking young players who will be better next year.

However, his total belief in the high line needs to change when he doesn't have the players. It has no bail out without the pace of a Van De Ven in the back four. They were eighth at the end of October when Van De Ven got injured and had dropped to seventeenth in March by the time he returned. Like FH, AP tried to stick to his ideology rather than adapt when his playing resources changed. I'm pleased to say that FH seems to have learned over the season. With Ange it could be a case of old dogs, new tricks. However, when the chips were down in the the United game, he showed that he could ask his team to do something else.

I'm not saying that Dominic Solanke is their Mark Robins, scoring the goal that saves a future club legend, just that I don't think he's a terrible manager. He's had a terrible league season, but we're all capable of growth and I wouldn't say that any of the options to replace him are a guaranteed win. Silva struggled in his second year at Everton and Frank away from Brentford's methods is an unknown quantity that could very easily backfire.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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He's a terrible manager who won a trophy and qualified for the Champions League, more than any other Spurs manager has managed to achieve in the modern era.

I know it's impossible to countenance "success" being more nuanced than league position, but it is what it is.
Worst league performance 38 game era
Lowest points
Most defeats
Most defeats by a non relegated season
Openly admits he injuries players

Plenty of other clubs sack managers after winning cups
 


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