I bet those South African persecutors were eating cats & dogs too.
[Politics] Donald Trump, US President
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I bet those South African persecutors were eating cats & dogs too.
Insel affe
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Yes, but the ultimate goal is to get more white voting males in the U.S.
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FACT CHECKING THE BULLSHITFEST
The Back Story to Trump’s Refugee Plan
“Genocide” of White farmers (which is a racially/discriminatory motivated phenomenon) has been debunked by SA Government statistics and research into farm attacks
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...but-white-afrikaner-farmers-reject-that-claim
TL;DR
Trump’s claims of ‘genocide’ in SA are, like a lot of every other misinformed garbage he spews out, a poorly disguised effort in his continuing to demonise racial minorities in the US to support his immigration policies.
The Back Story to Trump’s Refugee Plan
- In August 2018, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, commented that the South African government had disproportionately targeted white farmers during its ongoing expropriation efforts due to anti-white racism. He also criticised political "elites", who are purportedly concerned about racism, but "paying no attention" to the "racist government of South Africa".
- BBC News, CBS News, Associated Press, PolitiFact, The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal all described Carlson's segment as false or misleading.
- Following Carlson's piece, Trump instructed the then SoS Mike Pompeo to study farm attacks tweeting: "South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers".
- Trump's tweet denounced as "misinformed" by the South African government they reported to the SA Embassy in the US that there was "no evidence that murders on farms specifically target white people or are politically motivated" and that "some journalists and lobby groups have simplified complex land disputes to serve their own ends".
- “AfriForum took credit for Carlson and Trump's statements, stating that it believed that its campaign to influence American politics had succeeded” (PBS)
“Genocide” of White farmers (which is a racially/discriminatory motivated phenomenon) has been debunked by SA Government statistics and research into farm attacks
- “The claim of a white genocide in South Africa has been promoted by right-wing groups in South Africa and the United States and is a frequent talking point among white nationalists. “ (PBS)
- There are no reliable figures that suggest that white farmers are at greater risk of being killed than the average South African. Some Black South Africans have sought to seize privately owned land which they have made claims to; however, South African police have stopped such attempts at appropriating land.” (Wiki)
- Farm attacks have increased as part of overall violent crime in SA but the stats only reflect farmers who have revenue of $55,396 a year, which excludes many small-scale farmers, the majority of them Black. (Wiki)
- Overall, the white minority — just 7% of the population is white — still owns the vast majority of the land in South Africa, which the World Bank has called “the most unequal country in the world. (PBS)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...but-white-afrikaner-farmers-reject-that-claim
TL;DR
Trump’s claims of ‘genocide’ in SA are, like a lot of every other misinformed garbage he spews out, a poorly disguised effort in his continuing to demonise racial minorities in the US to support his immigration policies.
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jessiejames
Never late in a V8
uneducated Americans that must be a good 92% of the population
Not exactly. The U.S. didn't get where it is with 92% uneducated people.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Meanwhile, the Speaker has to stop Trump from walking into a wall.
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Looked like he was about to turn down the wrong corridor tbh not walk into a wall.
The Lemming Stomper
Under the flag
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Maybe we have to understand different cultures and their way of "behaving". If that's the "American way" to do politics and manage international relations, then maybe we have to just accept and embrace it.
(Sarcasm by the way)
(Sarcasm by the way)
fly high
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Since when did Trump care about truth.
You couldn't make it up. And who does Trump think the white farmers stole the land from in the first place? Does he think the white farmers paid open market value to a willing seller? He is so unbelievably thick.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
So, he didn't see the police officer standing there? Perhaps he needs to wear glasses?Looked like he was about to turn down the wrong corridor tbh not walk into a wall.
beorhthelm
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in a better time the joke would have been he doesn't know his way round Congress.Looked like he was about to turn down the wrong corridor tbh not walk into a wall.
Corrected "the Math" for you.
Muzzman
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I really hope there is some backlash on this, I know we wont do it, but I would love Charles to whip out an ipad during the state visit and start playing clip after clip after clip of school children being murdered in US schools and ask Mr Tangerine Man what he's going to do about it.
Fignon's Ponytail
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Im sure Led by Donkeys will have something up their sleeve, but whether it would be seen by Trump is another matter....
Redinpeace
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Wonder if Trump will have anything to say about Little Rocket Man’s new warship falling over on launch.
Greg Bobkin
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What a surprise - Trump talking shite. Same old, same old. And yet people still swallow it!
BBC News - Fact-checking Trump's Oval Office confrontation with Ramaphosa
www.bbc.com
BBC News - Fact-checking Trump's Oval Office confrontation with Ramaphosa
Fact-checking Donald Trump's Oval Office confrontation with Cyril Ramaphosa
President Trump made a series of claims about the killing of white farmers in South Africa, some of which are demonstrably false.
www.bbc.com
Pavilionaire
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Great journalism by the BBC there. It is so important to keep exposing the lies coming out of The White House.What a surprise - Trump talking shite. Same old, same old. And yet people still swallow it!
BBC News - Fact-checking Trump's Oval Office confrontation with Ramaphosa
Fact-checking Donald Trump's Oval Office confrontation with Cyril Ramaphosa
President Trump made a series of claims about the killing of white farmers in South Africa, some of which are demonstrably false.
We can see for ourselves how easily Trump is to manipulate because he will believe what he wants to believe and do no fact-checking for himself.
Here, thanks to the BBC, we can follow the audit trail of his lies. However, what powers is he granting to those oligarchs who also tell him what he wants to hear, powers that they are using for their own nefarious gains?