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Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






Triggaaar

Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
55,407
Goldstone
Bozza said:
I don't think anyone, other than Thicko Trump thinks the actual MS13 is tattooed on his hand.
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It's ok, once one of his nannies explains it to him, he'll be telling us a mixture of a) Yes I know, I was referring to the images (which aren't on the knuckles), and b) I was being sarcastic.


Bodian said:
I cannot believe that even Trump can actually believe that the letters themselves were actually on his hand.
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Just when you think you understand how dumb he is, he surprises you.
 




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Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
872
I just watched the news at 10, and even though they tend to stay reasonably impartial on the reporting, even the Washington correspondent was unable to describe today’s broadcast cabinet meeting as anything other than sycophancy. Then after showing a bit of the clip - where some woman is telling him it’s the best first 100 days in history - it cut back to the study where Rita Chakrabarti couldn’t suppress a smirk at the unbelievable ludicrousness of it all.
 


drew

drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
24,340
Burgess Hill
Albion my Albion said:
I can barely make it out but I truly believe I see tattooed on Trump's knuckles

"eye heart Vlad P"
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you mean

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On his knuckles
 






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raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
9,505
Wiltshire
Triggaaar said:
Although we know he's dumb as f***, he still manages to surprise.

He talks about fake news without realising he's the victim of it, just like he was with the cats and dogs. And then he threatens the interviewer, telling him to agree with Trump's BS :rolleyes:
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That was the thing for me... the threat. He only believes what matches his agenda - he cares not a jot whether it's true (rarely), Photoshop, AI, or (usually) downright lies.
 


Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
14,001
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Bozza said:
This is the photo in question.

I don't think anyone, other than Thicko Trump thinks the actual MS13 is tattooed on his hand.

The MS13 was clearly added to provide a guide as to the actual tattoos which, it's claimed, represent MS13

Marajuana
Smilie
Sword
Skull

Some suggested the 1 had been tweaked to become a sword, and the 3 had been converted into a skull.

Regardless, it's abundantly clear to everyone, but one man it seems, that the actual MS13 is not a tattoo.
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Also important to note that MS-13 experts said that none of the pictorial tattoos in the photograph is a known signifier of MS-13. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...s-13-tattooed-on-his-knuckles-as-trump-claims

"As for the pictorial tattoos on Abrego Garcia’s hand, marijuana leaves, crosses and skulls are widely used by people who do not belong to gangs. Gang crime experts said they did not stand out to them as MS-13 markers.

“I don’t believe a dangerous individual would have such anodyne and farcically generic tattoos on his hand,” said Liliana Castaneda Rossmann, a California State University San Marcos emerita professor of communication and author of the book Transcending Gangs: Latinas Story Their Experience.

Sean Kennedy, a former federal public defender in California and now a Loyola Law School professor, said in his experience representing and interacting with current and former MS-13 members, “The tattoos in the photo don’t look familiar to me.”

Such designs are out of character with typical MS-13 tattoos, Kennedy said.

“Within MS-13 culture, such markings would likely be frowned upon and even viewed as a sign of cowardice, as they could be interpreted as an attempt to hide or downplay gang affiliation,” Kennedy said. “That type of concealment goes against the gang’s norms, which often demand bold, visible demonstrations of identity and loyalty.”

Charles Katz, director of Arizona State University’s Center for Violence Prevention and Community Safety, concurred.

While Katz said local law enforcement would be more familiar with specific tattoo designs in a given region, “I have worked on issues related to MS-13 for the past 15 years in El Salvador and the US, and I have never seen tattoos or graffiti suggesting that these particular tattoos are associated with MS-13.”
 




Green Cross Code Man

Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
21,157
Eastbourne
Kalimantan Gull said:
Also important to note that MS-13 experts said that none of the pictorial tattoos in the photograph is a known signifier of MS-13. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...s-13-tattooed-on-his-knuckles-as-trump-claims

"As for the pictorial tattoos on Abrego Garcia’s hand, marijuana leaves, crosses and skulls are widely used by people who do not belong to gangs. Gang crime experts said they did not stand out to them as MS-13 markers.

“I don’t believe a dangerous individual would have such anodyne and farcically generic tattoos on his hand,” said Liliana Castaneda Rossmann, a California State University San Marcos emerita professor of communication and author of the book Transcending Gangs: Latinas Story Their Experience.

Sean Kennedy, a former federal public defender in California and now a Loyola Law School professor, said in his experience representing and interacting with current and former MS-13 members, “The tattoos in the photo don’t look familiar to me.”

Such designs are out of character with typical MS-13 tattoos, Kennedy said.

“Within MS-13 culture, such markings would likely be frowned upon and even viewed as a sign of cowardice, as they could be interpreted as an attempt to hide or downplay gang affiliation,” Kennedy said. “That type of concealment goes against the gang’s norms, which often demand bold, visible demonstrations of identity and loyalty.”

Charles Katz, director of Arizona State University’s Center for Violence Prevention and Community Safety, concurred.

While Katz said local law enforcement would be more familiar with specific tattoo designs in a given region, “I have worked on issues related to MS-13 for the past 15 years in El Salvador and the US, and I have never seen tattoos or graffiti suggesting that these particular tattoos are associated with MS-13.”
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What's the point of facts when you can follow all-knowing Trump and his acolytes?
 


bhafc99

bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,719
Dubai
Never mind what this dude has (or doesn’t have) on his hands, the interviewer should have asked Trump WTF that is on his face. Creosote?
 






Hugo Rune

Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
24,747
Brighton
Pavilionaire said:
Even by Trump standards that footage is incredible. I counted 6 clear times when the interviewer gave Trump the chance to move on and change the subject, but 6 times he went back to it.

Then - near the end - the ultimate irony. "Terry, this is why people don't believe the news, because it's fake news".

And it wasn't lost on me that in the middle of it we got a small window on Trump's recruitment methodology that might explain his piss-poor Cabinet: "I picked you because, frankly, I've never heard of you, but that's OK"
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In many years time when historians study the great American crash of the 2020's, that'll be the video they look at when they discuss the concept of Trump's 'fake news'.

His behaviour is that of a child, if your strategy is outright lying, your first move is to label everyone else a liar with aggression and constant repetition. Voters who are liars and bullies will absolutely respect that tactic and voters who are as thick as ****ing pig shit will believe the narrative.
 
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Klaas

Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,757
Hugo Rune said:
Voters who are liars and bullies will absolutely respect that tactic and voters who are as thick as ****ing pig shit we believe your narrative.
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In a nutshell. Wonder which ones our resident Trumpers are.
 






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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
17,574
Triggaaar said:
It's ok, once one of his nannies explains it to him, he'll be telling us a mixture of a) Yes I know, I was referring to the images (which aren't on the knuckles), and b) I was being sarcastic.




Just when you think you understand how dumb he is, he surprises you.
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Biden told him they were real

:moo:

I should add that nothing surprises me. Not even whatever depths Donald Trump stoops too, or whatever insult/lie he pulls out of the bag.
 


Bakero

Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
15,614
Almería
Greg Bobkin said:
Biden told him they were real

:moo:

I should add that nothing surprises me. Not even whatever depths Donald Trump stoops too, or whatever insult/lie he pulls out of the bag.
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He seemed like he genuinely believed that MS13 was tattooed on his hand, which confirms a few things:

  • He's an idiot
  • His staff are too scared to correct him
  • He shouldn't be in charge of a supermarket let alone a country
 






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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
17,574
Bakero said:
He seemed like he genuinely believed that MS13 was tattooed on his hand, which confirms a few things:

  • He's an idiot
  • His staff are too scared to correct him
  • He shouldn't be in charge of a supermarket let alone a country
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To me, the words 'Trump' and ''genuinely' do not belong together. I don't believe a thing he says, which is why it never surprises me when half of the stuff he predicts or says is going to happen, doesn't!

I can't remember ever seeing him admit he was wrong or apologise for anything, so I would imagine that he's either seen the picture and/or been told about it, then stated it as fact – and then been told it actually wasn't real. But once he's put his marker in the ground, he can't change course without looking like a chump. You could argue he already DOES look like one, but possibly not to his base – it's all about his ego and him wanting to look 'tough' and 'strong'.

I wouldn't put him in charge of a supermarket TROLLEY, let alone the actual store :lol:

Edit: Beaten too it!
 


Bakero

Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
15,614
Almería
Greg Bobkin said:
To me, the words 'Trump' and ''genuinely' do not belong together. I don't believe a thing he says, which is why it never surprises me when half of the stuff he predicts or says is going to happen, doesn't!

I can't remember ever seeing him admit he was wrong or apologise for anything, so I would imagine that he's either seen the picture and/or been told about it, then stated it as fact – and then been told it actually wasn't real. But once he's put his marker in the ground, he can't change course without looking like a chump. You could argue he already DOES look like one, but possibly not to his base – it's all about his ego and him wanting to look 'tough' and 'strong'.

I wouldn't put him in charge of a supermarket TROLLEY, let alone the actual store :lol:

Edit: Beaten too it!
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His tweets, press conferences and interviews will be studied for centuries to come. Mainly by psychologists.
 


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