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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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Carney knows a hundred per cent more about economics than the orange faced clown over the border.

Hope we start buying Canadian goods and services and tell the USA to f*** off...
Didn't we sign a trade agreement with them?
 






Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
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Amazon are planning to display the portion of an item's cost that is related to tariffs, apparently. It's really pissed off the White House who were presumably hoping that consumers would continue to believe the lie that the tariff is a tax on the country of origin.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
 


Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
15,602
Almería
Amazon are planning to display the portion of an item's cost that is related to tariffs, apparently. It's really pissed off the White House who were presumably hoping that consumers would continue to believe the lie that the tariff is a tax on the country of origin.

Beautiful. According to Leavitt, it's a "hostile, political act" and Amazon is now Chinese "propaganda". Oh, and obviously what about "Biden hiking inflation"

 


SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
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Jan 25, 2025
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Amazon are planning to display the portion of an item's cost that is related to tariffs, apparently. It's really pissed off the White House who were presumably hoping that consumers would continue to believe the lie that the tariff is a tax on the country of origin.
Amazon knows that post-tariff shipments will start hitting American shores soon and there’s going to be a backlash against retailers by MAGA folk too dumb to realise why their prices have just gone sky high.
 






Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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Mid Sussex
Okay, but what kind of cards does Carney have? If Trump doesn't like his cards he's "in trouble."
In 2024, the United States imported $412.7 billion worth of goods from Canada. Key import categories include crude oil (US oil is it great for fuel), refined petroleum, vehicles and heavy machinery. They are also reliant on fertilisers. In short they have very good cards and Trump doesn’t. If he’d left of the world alone and focussed on Canada alone then he would be in a much better position but as he’s a weapons grade idiot he didn’t.
 






Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
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Amazon knows that post-tariff shipments will start hitting American shores soon and there’s going to be a backlash against retailers by MAGA folk too dumb to realise why their prices have just gone sky high.

The MAGA faithful will know. They just don't want to face reality. I had MAGA "friend" say to me "Do the Chinese really think Trump is hearing voices when he says they are negotiating tariffs and the Chinese say they are not?" I said it's obvious Trump is lying. He said there is no way Trump is lying about that. They just won't accept reality.
 








fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
2,285
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In 2024, the United States imported $412.7 billion worth of goods from Canada. Key import categories include crude oil (US oil is it great for fuel), refined petroleum, vehicles and heavy machinery. They are also reliant on fertilisers. In short they have very good cards and Trump doesn’t. If he’d left of the world alone and focussed on Canada alone then he would be in a much better position but as he’s a weapons grade idiot he didn’t.
But once he's done his trade deal with Russia he'll get oil, petrol and fertiliser from them, probably at a better price.
 


birthofanorange

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David Gilmour's armpit


bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
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Beautiful. According to Leavitt, it's a "hostile, political act" and Amazon is now Chinese "propaganda". Oh, and obviously what about "Biden hiking inflation"

It’s probably all Hilary’s fault, in Maga-land…
 




Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Amazon are planning to display the portion of an item's cost that is related to tariffs, apparently. It's really pissed off the White House who were presumably hoping that consumers would continue to believe the lie that the tariff is a tax on the country of origin.
Shit happens when you tell the truth!

But as an aside, I think's it's possible that Trump truly believe's his own lie that other countries pay the tariffs. He is that simple.
 




SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
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Jan 25, 2025
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The MAGA faithful will know. They just don't want to face reality. I had MAGA "friend" say to me "Do the Chinese really think Trump is hearing voices when he says they are negotiating tariffs and the Chinese say they are not?" I said it's obvious Trump is lying. He said there is no way Trump is lying about that. They just won't accept reality.
Right, so they’ll deny (to themselves) the reality that prices have gone up due to tariffs. Blaming the retailers will be a comfortable alternative.

It was the same with Brexit. Economic damage/lack of progress on a deal was the fault of (depending on day of the week), the EU, Remoaners, Lefty Lawyers, treacherous Judges, the EU, the Lefty BBC, the WTO, the EU, Theresa May, Lefty Remoaners, the EU….

It’s a mass delusion. Pedantry on my part, but deluded people don’t “know”.
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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Amazon are planning to display the portion of an item's cost that is related to tariffs, apparently. It's really pissed off the White House who were presumably hoping that consumers would continue to believe the lie that the tariff is a tax on the country of origin.
No they are not.

They only considered it internally (it was leaked) and never for the main Amazon site but the idea never got any traction.



Trump getting his news from Punchbowl and running with it 🙄

Is anyone interested in facts though :shrug:
 




Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
856
Shit happens when you tell the truth!

But as an aside, I think's it's possible that Trump truly believe's his own lie that other countries pay the tariffs. He is that simple.
Trump is very much a simple-solutions-for-simple-people type of guy. It really will have come as a shock to him when it crashed the stock market and, even worse, caused a sell off of US treasury bonds.
 




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